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Old 10-30-2007, 12:05 PM
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Just curious how the drivability of the Magic Stick 3 is.. It will have a 6spd and 4.10 gears..

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Old 10-30-2007, 12:15 PM
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i have the same setup except with the ms4 go for it as long as you have it dyno tuned by someone who knows there stuff you'll be good. go for it drivability isnt bad at all
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I DD mine i like it alot! ull like it cuz of the short gear, and 6 speed. gunna pull like a ****!
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i daily drove mine with a 6 speed and 3.90s with a spool and with a th350. i had no issues at all dd it. like said above get it tuned by someone good and you're golden
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isnt ms3 mostly top end cam ?
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Originally Posted by CETA_TransAm
isnt ms3 mostly top end cam ?
dosnt mean it dosnt perform well!

i love mine. if ur auto get a stall it will fix ur problem, if ur 6 speed wit 410s i dont think you will see low rpms for that long anyways. it will still pull on a smaller cam that is suppose to net better low end power.
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My MS3 was awesome... Even with the 3.42 gears and the 4500 vig w/the 60e trans.... I drove it everyday w/o issues... Just get a good tuner and youre good to go....
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I love mine and could drive it everyday if I wanted with no issues. But my car is setup to be a top-end monster and I still have stock 3.42s but it really needs 4.11s to get in the powerband quicker
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damn! i need to get mine a.s.a.p!anyone have issues w/ springs?
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It all depends on what you're willing to put up with
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Originally Posted by Asmodeus
It all depends on what you're willing to put up with
such as?
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were the power band start at on this cam ?
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Originally Posted by CETA_TransAm
were the power band start at on this cam ?
that hasnt really been a problem for me. we spend most of the race in high RPMS anyways.i think aslong as ur not launching off of idle you wont really notice. the only time u notice the loss of low end is DD. but from my personal view its not that bad.
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For mine, about 3K and then the sky is the limit!
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so it not good for racing out of a dig ?
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Originally Posted by CETA_TransAm
so it not good for racing out of a dig ?
well if you dont have a stall, or if you launch ur m6 off of idle you are gunna notice the loss of low end. but if you atleast stall it up alil bit. you will be fine.
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what are the profiles on this cam ?
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Honestly, if I was looking for a 1/8th mile cam, this would not be it....for me. I guess with a high enough stall or a super clutch, it would be ok, but there are probably better. For a 1/4mile cam, or 'couple of stoplights' cam, it rocks!
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if you want a decent all around cam. that has nicer low end i would say Torquer 2. if i were to ever get a smaller cam it would be that one. it sounds nice, and performs well. but i really like my ms3. i dont plan on changing it anytime soon.
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The MS3 is a 237/242 .603".609" with some advance ground in the LSA (I am not 100% sure though)

I run the cam in my 346, love its pull. It is a bit of a dog under 2500 rpms...but so what! 3000+ you better hold on to something. I race the car and plan on running a dual stage wet nitrous system in a few weeks, as the MS3 really works well with the spray.

I had 4.10 gears but broke the ring, so I am back to the stock 3.42's and it still hauls.
The 4.10 gears make for some easier around town driving, especially coming off red lights. You could without a doubt DD this cam, but you need someone who KNOWS how to tune work with it for some time. A cookie cutter tune WILL NOT suffice, and your driveability WILL SUFFER. I experience some bucking from time to time, but it is worth it.

I had a cookie cutter tune in there for a while, and everything was off. Timing, a/f, idle. You really need to put the car on a dyno and work with it for a few hours to get its full potential. 95% of driveability is in the tune IMO. Dan here @ MASPORT retuned it and we wre able to produce my numbers you see below with heads and a ported FAST.

I have a built T56 by the way.

+1 for the MS3.


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