Heads...Cam....Intake?
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Heads...Cam....Intake?
Im getting ready to amke another purchase for my 2000 WS6. I just dont knwo what it should be. What would bethe best thing to add on first... a cam? heads? or intake?
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I wanna get a bigger cam, I cant remember the model, it is a Comp Cams xtreme or somthing. I just wasnt sure what which add on would be the best practical one to get next. Has anyone installed a cam themselves? Do you gotta drop the engine or anything?
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I would put my money on the LS6 intake. Unless your looking for a max effort to get every ounce of power possible out of the motor. Then a cam, I researched this alot and getting a FAST is well worth it and all. But, if getting one, why not get it ported in the process which is even more expensive. I'm putting in a Magic Stick 3 this month with 5.3 heads and I chose the LS6 manifold. On any cam the LS1 manifold is an absolute dog and runs out of breath really fast. If you do get a LS6 manifold, look in the parts classified on here and they normally go for $350-ish used. With the amount of money you'd save you could buy a dry or wet kit to more than make up for the small lack of horses missing from having a FAST.
The motor doesn't have to be dropped for the cam or intake, but is about necessary for the heads. I'm about to find out here really soon on that.
The motor doesn't have to be dropped for the cam or intake, but is about necessary for the heads. I'm about to find out here really soon on that.
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You don't have to drop the motor to do heads, you can do a heads and cam with the block still in the car. If you do a cam only you have to worry about the lifters falling out of the head and into the oil pan. This can be avoided by using a special tool that thuderracing sells, or you can use 16 pen magnets to hold lifters up.
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I do agree that you don't have to drop the motor but it makes it so much easier to do the work with the motor out. If the cam is big enough then checking PTV clearance becomes a breeze also. Not trying to start a debate or anything, but think in my opinion it's the easiest way to go without butchering your hands in the process. I guess I should have worn some gloves when doing the LS6 manifold
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If you want to see better gain after the install of your heads and cam then do the intake first. You would be doing things in reverse if you get the intake after your heads and cam because your current manifold would only be restricting the added power of the heads and cam. If you want to save some money for future mods I would get the LS6 intake.
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Yea, i totally agree on the butchered hands, my hands looked like raw meet for a couple of weeks after tearing down on my car for a h/c swap. Then the h/c swap turned into a motor swap, and we did put the heads on the motor before we put everything back in, it was a lot less painful.
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Thanks for all the reply's! I think im going to get the Magic stick 4 kit with the PRC Spring Kit & Pushrod Package from TSP. And will probably just wait till I get the intake and heads then install everything and get it tuned...grrrr. Has anyone out there got a Magic stick 4 cam?
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What made u pick the MS4? Cause its a huge obnoxious cam? Your going to have to replace springs alot with that cam seems as your on a budget i would recommend something smaller. IMO that cam is for drag only cars where they live above 4500 rpm
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I know with that cam, you WILL need a bigger intake. Get an LS6, then look at getting that cam if that's what you do get. I know with the MS3 on a LS1 intake will possibly make 385-400 if your lucky with full exhaust. With the LS6, cracking 420ish is easily done. It would hurt the MS4 even worse. Texas Speed says they made that cam to go with ported heads when I talked to them (although every cam performs better with heads, duh). The MS3 and MS4 can be streetable but you'll need a really good tuner, not just some joe-schmo that says yeah I can do it. If you get that cam and put it in, you'll most likely need a retune when you get the intake. It would cost you more on the long run.
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I did a little research on it, not a whole lot, and everyone who had it said they loved it. I wanna make as much power as I possibly can and I figured it was a good choice. Does anyone on here have it?
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