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Old 11-22-2008, 04:17 PM
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How much psi does a stand alone fuel system need for a 150-250 shot. (150 on current motor and 250 after build but only want to buy 1 pump)?
Old 11-22-2008, 06:27 PM
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You can run whatever psi you'd like to. Just make sure the pump is capable of flowing the volume of fuel you require.

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I called Nitro Dave's the other day and was discussing stand alones and he said for direct port stuff a lower pressure system is easier to tune. Not sure about a plate system though.
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Originally Posted by TurboAv
I called Nitro Dave's the other day and was discussing stand alones and he said for direct port stuff a lower pressure system is easier to tune. Not sure about a plate system though.
Which plate?

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Which plate?

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I was just saying that I don't know if lower pressure is easier to tune on a plate since we were discussing direct port systems and not plates.
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Gotcha, feel free to shoot me over a PM if you'd like to discuss any options etc. Thanks.


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Originally Posted by Nick@HSW
You can run whatever psi you'd like to. Just make sure the pump is capable of flowing the volume of fuel you require.

Nick
how does one figure that out?
Old 11-24-2008, 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by TurboAv
I called Nitro Dave's the other day and was discussing stand alones and he said for direct port stuff a lower pressure system is easier to tune. Not sure about a plate system though.

You can tune the plate with low pressure just as you can with a direct port.

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Originally Posted by Chris@NitroDaves
You can tune the plate with low pressure just as you can with a direct port.

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What makes low pressure easier to tune?
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So for say a 250 shot...what does the pump have to flow....50...100...150 gph?
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Originally Posted by badaSS346
So for say a 250 shot...what does the pump have to flow....50...100...150 gph?
Multiply HP by brake specific fuel consumption value of .6. Convert to gph by multiplying by .26. Use .6 as your value as you can never have enough pump.

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Originally Posted by TurboAv
What makes low pressure easier to tune?
Jet selection and flow. Think of it this way, how is 1 jet size going to react to 60psi versus 6.

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Originally Posted by Nick@HSW
Multiply HP by brake specific fuel consumption value of .6. Convert to gph by multiplying by .26. Use .6 as your value as you can never have enough pump.

Nick
ok so 250*.6=150
150*.26=39

So i need a pump that flows at least 39 gph?

That sounds way to low.

The way I figured it out is that if for 600 rwhp you need 255 gph and 250 hp is 42% of 600...then you will need 42% of 255 which is 107 gph.
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Originally Posted by badaSS346
The way I figured it out is that if for 600 rwhp you need 255 gph and 250 hp is 42% of 600...then you will need 42% of 255 which is 107 gph.

Take into consideration that you didn't convert 255lph to gph. So using your math you would take 42% of a pump that flows 66.3gph (255lph pump). That comes out to roughly 28gph. I would take a harder look at the bsfc calculation rather than using a percentage rational. And keep in mind that the walbro pumps aren't all the same and most of them are a little deceiving in the actual amount that they flow.

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I use a holley blue pemp....and have seen many others here use the same
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Yup, quite a few people use the Holley Blue pumps.

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