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Old 12-10-2008, 12:22 PM
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Thumbs up 6 speed guys with big hits, have a question

just stepped up to a 250 shot and the car makes a **** load more power and is pretty violent at the track. problem is as soon as i hit it with this bigger shot i couldn't get it to hook out of the hole to save my life. now i have qa1 shocks,drag sway bar and hoosier 27" qtp's, and tried a **** load of adjustments. i adjusted my fjo controller for a 2 tenth delay off the start and that seems to work great. my fjo controller has a delay set up in it but everytime i let off the throttle to shift, it delays again in every time i get back on it. now if i had a auto it would be fine cause you hit the gas and never lift. what are ya'll using and what do ya recomend?
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I've been down this road. If your controller is a FJO mini controller set it on RPM based instead of on time. Start out with a low % hit @ a lower rpm (around 3500) and run it flat to get you out of the hole. Then ramp it up aggresive @ around 4300 rpm to be at 100% @ around 5300 rpm. That way when you shift into 2nd, 3rd, and 4th gear you will be at full spray.

All that said...you will still have to fine tune what % at what prm works best for you. I can go ahead and tell you it's a fine line between a good launch and a terrible one in a M6 with a big nitrous hit. Good luck and keep us posted!
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What Keith said is about the limits of the FJO...thats one thing I like about the NOS mini..it has a pause or resume feature...this will allow the controller to either start the ramp over or pick up where it left off when you lose either TPS or RPM activation signals.
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Originally Posted by KeithBerryZ06
I've been down this road. If your controller is a FJO mini controller set it on RPM based instead of on time. Start out with a low % hit @ a lower rpm (around 3500) and run it flat to get you out of the hole. Then ramp it up aggresive @ around 4300 rpm to be at 100% @ around 5300 rpm. That way when you shift into 2nd, 3rd, and 4th gear you will be at full spray.

All that said...you will still have to fine tune what % at what prm works best for you. I can go ahead and tell you it's a fine line between a good launch and a terrible one in a M6 with a big nitrous hit. Good luck and keep us posted!
thanks for the info. ill try it out on saturday.
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Originally Posted by Ray@Nitrous Outlet
What Keith said is about the limits of the FJO...thats one thing I like about the NOS mini..it has a pause or resume feature...this will allow the controller to either start the ramp over or pick up where it left off when you lose either TPS or RPM activation signals.
wat does that cost and could i use a wot switch to activate it?
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don't lift when when you shift
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Originally Posted by 1badair
don't lift when when you shift
That's right!
Old 12-11-2008, 01:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Sprayed 99
wat does that cost and could i use a wot switch to activate it?

http://www.nitrousoutlet.com/catalog...roduct_id=1539

will control 2 stages, window switch, TPS activation, Delay, Progressive, and has 2 aditional outputs to trigger other devices like timing retards.
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ray im gonna need ya to educate me on these when i come see ya.
to start with im gonna manual activate(toggle) in 2nd or 3rd, with a WOTS.
then will look into electronics later.
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no problem....will see you tomorrow
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Originally Posted by 1BADAIR
don't lift when when you shift
haven't tried that yet with this car. i'll give that a shot too
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It seems the way the car hits just on motor is very violent, at least thats what I exp and given I am pulling my wheels with a weak 60 foot means the drag bar, and shocks are going on next but to get a 150 to 250 hit off the limiter has to be something else. I almost expect that I will run a controller at some point, Or move the n20 selinoid 5 feet away
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went to the track sunday, which happened to be the last day its open for the year, and tried to ramp the fjo like KiethBarry said and only got one n2o pass in. the car right before me oiled the track down and then the track got cold during the 40 mins it took to clean it so that pass i spun comin out so didn't get a chance to really try it. but i can say it will work and its how i plan on runnin next year.
thanks again for all the input and good luck to all next year!
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Originally Posted by Sprayed 99
went to the track sunday, which happened to be the last day its open for the year, and tried to ramp the fjo like KiethBarry said and only got one n2o pass in. the car right before me oiled the track down and then the track got cold during the 40 mins it took to clean it so that pass i spun comin out so didn't get a chance to really try it. but i can say it will work and its how i plan on runnin next year.
thanks again for all the input and good luck to all next year!
Glad to hear it worked for you!
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With my fjo mini controller, I set the delay at zero, then ramp at .3 tenths from 20%- 100% in a straight line in every gear. Always seemed to work great for me.
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does anyone shoot 175 or better on stock bottom end ls1 engines and how safe is it with the right timing pulled and a fuel pump and plugs
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Originally Posted by hnaskoct
does anyone shoot 175 or better on stock bottom end ls1 engines and how safe is it with the right timing pulled and a fuel pump and plugs
i'm sprayin a 275 hit and have a stock bottom end with a decent tune and a walbro pump. so with the right tune and a set of ngk tr6 plugs,my opinion is you'll be fine
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Originally Posted by Sprayed 99
i'm sprayin a 275 hit and have a stock bottom end with a decent tune and a walbro pump. so with the right tune and a set of ngk tr6 plugs,my opinion is you'll be fine
"got damn"
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Another dual stage controller to check out is the MicroEdge as it has all the stuff us 6-speed guys need at a great price, and other features like lean/rich shut down using WB or NB sensor. Just to many goodies to list but worth a look.
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