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Old 12-17-2008, 11:38 PM
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Default Who is running E85 and Nitrous?

Just as title says. Is it possible? Who is running it? what do you have to do if anything?
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E85 is a very caustic fuel. It eats away at common fuel systems. E85 vehicles require a lot of stainless steel parts to hold the fuel. I dont know if LS1 have those I have not checked but be careful. I think there was a long thread on E85 and what it would take to run it. Try searching. https://ls1tech.com/forums/fueling-i...?highlight=e85 . This should fill in whatever questions you may have.
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yes its possible, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvMzFFxAOuI
the red dart in the end of the video is a street driven small block (carb) on nitrous, works great. Go to www.dynotuneusa.com , i know some people who have had there cars converted and tuned to E85 by them.
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Yes it is very possible, my brother ran e85 this summer and I will be this upcoming summer on my ls1. It is not as caustic as you think....
BTW you have to upsize your fuel jets.....
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do some reading on E85forum.com

i just did a quick search, there was a guy making over 1200hp on a sbc with e85 and nitrous.

my next motor i would like to setup for e85. 105-107 octane for under $2 a gallon. i dont understand why more people arent switching over. i havnt heard any downsides to it, other than you use 25-30% more fuel. just need to make sure your fuel system is setup for it.
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i was going to do the conversion, but ran out of money. e85 is $1.49 a gallon and the station is only 3 blocks from my house. the problem is it requires 30% more fuel. so a car making 550-600hp on motor needs a fuel system that can support 1000hp. and the same goes for the jetting and noids needed. everything needs to be able to handle the additional fuel requirements
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Originally Posted by firefighting1101
i was going to do the conversion, but ran out of money. e85 is $1.49 a gallon and the station is only 3 blocks from my house. the problem is it requires 30% more fuel. so a car making 550-600hp on motor needs a fuel system that can support 1000hp. and the same goes for the jetting and noids needed. everything needs to be able to handle the additional fuel requirements
Yup.

Im glad i setup my fuel system way bigger than needed
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Originally Posted by JDP
i dont understand why more people arent switching over.
Availability is the answer to that question. When you start to see it at over 50% of stations you will see a much larger group of people running it.
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Yes it is nothing like methanol as far as being harsh on your fuel system. I am running a procharger setup no nitrous but on e85 and I am loving it. Running twin walbro 255 big line and aem fuel rails no problems at all. One of the main reasons I switch was because it burns alot cooler too.
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Originally Posted by c0ncEpT
Availability is the answer to that question. When you start to see it at over 50% of stations you will see a much larger group of people running it.
i actually have quite a few E85 places by me, there is one like a 1/4 mile away, and there are quite a few others, so i guess im a lucky one.

and E85 is a lot easier to come by than race gas at least, cause you can get it at a pump
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I ran E85 and nitrous for a year and just switched back to 93. My experience is I made more power N/A and on the jug, but the bullshit of the E85 being really inconsistent, hard to start when its cold out and the gas mileage was horrible. In a nutshell I'll never run that ****.

Here's an example or the gas mileage. I drove to the track on a full tank(12 miles from house) and made 8 passes. 4 on motor and 4 on a 150 shot. Fuel pressure did not change. I used a half a tank and put ~32 miles on it.

Fuel system is a LPA/Nasty stage 3 kit
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I've tuned several cars on e85 no problems with any of them. You'll need a fuel system for 23% more fuel thats all thats needed. I've tuned several cars that get within 1-2 mpg's as they did on 92-93 octane
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Originally Posted by 1MEANGTO
I've tuned several cars on e85 no problems with any of them. You'll need a fuel system for 23% more fuel thats all thats needed. I've tuned several cars that get within 1-2 mpg's as they did on 92-93 octane
How is that possible with the added demand of Fuel? I find it hard to believe that you have no issues with E85 especially in MN.The summer blend and winter blend of E85 are not the same as more than 15% of gas is added the the E85 during the winter months. When it gets into the low 20's or even colder my car is hard to start. I had to put a few gallons of 93 in the tank to help it start
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Originally Posted by tsneath
Yes it is nothing like methanol as far as being harsh on your fuel system. I am running a procharger setup no nitrous but on e85 and I am loving it. Running twin walbro 255 big line and aem fuel rails no problems at all. One of the main reasons I switch was because it burns alot cooler too.
What kind of rwhp numbers are you pushing with your setup? Also, what size injectors?
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Originally Posted by BOTTLEFEDLS1Z
How is that possible with the added demand of Fuel? I find it hard to believe that you have no issues with E85 especially in MN.The summer blend and winter blend of E85 are not the same as more than 15% of gas is added the the E85 during the winter months. When it gets into the low 20's or even colder my car is hard to start. I had to put a few gallons of 93 in the tank to help it start
Dont drive an fbody in MN inthe winter! I learned that with my IROC. Get a $1000 beater.
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Originally Posted by nahasapeemapetalon
Dont drive an fbody in MN inthe winter! I learned that with my IROC. Get a $1000 beater.

Ya I know. My bro lives in Apple Valley. **** that snow and cold ****!!!
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Originally Posted by BOTTLEFEDLS1Z
How is that possible with the added demand of Fuel? I find it hard to believe that you have no issues with E85 especially in MN.The summer blend and winter blend of E85 are not the same as more than 15% of gas is added the the E85 during the winter months. When it gets into the low 20's or even colder my car is hard to start. I had to put a few gallons of 93 in the tank to help it start
We don't run them in the winter. And as for the e85 We have certain station we go to that is always e85. We drive beaters in the winter. Or on my own I have several tunes for winter e85.


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