Re NANO: How do you know when there is no more nitrous?
02-07-2009, 03:40 PM
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Without weighing the bottle, power fall off is the only recourse. what we whom run NANO need to do is to keep track of how many passes we get per full N2O bottle. from that point on you'll always know where you are at. If you have an idea of how many passes you could make prior to NANO, just double that number for a starting point then wait till power fall off to be sure. There is a gauge, can't remember which one, that measures the volume of nitrous used and keeps track of how full that way. I think maybe Beer has that gauge in his pillar and seems like it's a Trick Performance product now that i think about it.
Robert
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02-07-2009, 03:54 PM
#5
Without weighing the bottle, power fall off is the only recourse. what we whom run NANO need to do is to keep track of how many passes we get per full N2O bottle. from that point on you'll always know where you are at. If you have an idea of how many passes you could make prior to NANO, just double that number for a starting point then wait till power fall off to be sure. There is a gauge, can't remember which one, that measures the volume of nitrous used and keeps track of how full that way. I think maybe Beer has that gauge in his pillar and seems like it's a Trick Performance product now that i think about it.
Robert
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02-07-2009, 07:31 PM
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i was going to start working on a relationship between my nano psi vs lbs of n2o but i think the nano gauge failed or is innacurate so i'm starting over from scratch again, lol
02-08-2009, 12:04 AM
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The relationship between the two is how you can tell. Wth a full nano bottle vs. full nitrous bottle you can make a run and see how muc pressure you lose in the nano bottle. When you reach 1100 psi in the nano bottle you know the nitrous bottle is empty.
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02-08-2009, 12:25 AM
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okay thats what i thought i remembered seeing somewhere, however i started with a full n2o bottle and a 3k nano and by the time i ran out of n2o the nano gauge still read 2500 psi but the gauge on my nitrous line was reading only about 800 psi, something doesnt seem right, do you think the nano gauge is stuck or did the reg fail? im gonna refil both bottles and try this again but i'd love to know what you think or how you would suggest trouble shooting this
02-08-2009, 01:58 PM
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soooooo..... anyone have any thoughts as to why my nano gauge was still reading 2500 but the n2o bottle was down to about a pound left and i was only getting about 800psi out of the n2o bottle, failed gauge? failed nano reg? anyone?
02-08-2009, 04:02 PM
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Brad how much does temp play in the NANO pressure? Cold out side and my full NANO bottle read about 4000/4100psi full. I was wondering if it was filled in a nice warm 75° shop, then my cold azz shop it reads lower?
I still think the best way is to figure out how many full passes we can make at our size hit, and just record this. then we will know that maybe we have a pound or two left, but not enough to make a full pass. that way we won't waste a few dollars on a pass that would fall on it's face. we just go get it toped off, and get the NANO filled at the same time.
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02-08-2009, 04:28 PM
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well this was the first time i had run the nano, on the first few passes as soon as the nano was opened the nitrous came up to 1050 just right but then my performance started droping off and my ET's started really going down, when i purged there was still a little white cloud (only just bumped the purge button didnt hold it down long at all) when i checked the n2o pressure gauge it was down to about 900 and just after trying a quick purge it droped to 700, the whole time the nano gauge was still showing 2500, this is a 10lb 3000psi system, it was also fairly cold out when i was trying to make the passes (about 60-65*F)
02-08-2009, 04:37 PM
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well this was the first time i had run the nano, on the first few passes as soon as the nano was opened the nitrous came up to 1050 just right but then my performance started droping off and my ET's started really going down, when i purged there was still a little white cloud (only just bumped the purge button didnt hold it down long at all) when i checked the n2o pressure gauge it was down to about 900 and just after trying a quick purge it droped to 700, the whole time the nano gauge was still showing 2500, this is a 10lb 3000psi system, it was also fairly cold out when i was trying to make the passes (about 60-65*F)
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02-08-2009, 09:57 PM
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When your nitrous bottle is empty make sure the check valve is rattling. Can you shoot me a pic of the setup so i can make sure it is all in order? By looking at these two items i can better judge for you.
Robert- The nano system needs to be ran 80deg or below. The temp label is very useful for this. If it is very hot outside just throw a zip lock bag of ice on it. The reason for this is at 80 deg the nitrous trys to turn to vapor form which cancels the system out. Do realize a damp rag will keep the bottle below 80. It is much easier to keep a bottle cool than heating it.
Robert- The nano system needs to be ran 80deg or below. The temp label is very useful for this. If it is very hot outside just throw a zip lock bag of ice on it. The reason for this is at 80 deg the nitrous trys to turn to vapor form which cancels the system out. Do realize a damp rag will keep the bottle below 80. It is much easier to keep a bottle cool than heating it.
02-09-2009, 12:28 AM
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When your nitrous bottle is empty make sure the check valve is rattling. Can you shoot me a pic of the setup so i can make sure it is all in order? By looking at these two items i can better judge for you.
Robert- The nano system needs to be ran 80deg or below. The temp label is very useful for this. If it is very hot outside just throw a zip lock bag of ice on it. The reason for this is at 80 deg the nitrous trys to turn to vapor form which cancels the system out. Do realize a damp rag will keep the bottle below 80. It is much easier to keep a bottle cool than heating it.
Robert- The nano system needs to be ran 80deg or below. The temp label is very useful for this. If it is very hot outside just throw a zip lock bag of ice on it. The reason for this is at 80 deg the nitrous trys to turn to vapor form which cancels the system out. Do realize a damp rag will keep the bottle below 80. It is much easier to keep a bottle cool than heating it.
okay here's a pic of my system, dont know what angels you need on the pics
This is the first i've heard of the nano only working below 80*F that is kinda frusterating since here in AZ that is only a few months out of the year, lol and during the summer when it is 120* out it will probab take quite a bit of work to get it down to 80*, oh well we'll see what happens
02-09-2009, 08:26 AM
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For me it's weighing the bottle.
Honestly when this car gets Nitrous, I havent decided on whether to Nano it or not, but either way, after I am done with the Nitrous for the day, the bottle comes out and get's weighed.
Every time.
Also take note on how many times it was sprayed and you can figure out your # of runs per Bottle.
Honestly when this car gets Nitrous, I havent decided on whether to Nano it or not, but either way, after I am done with the Nitrous for the day, the bottle comes out and get's weighed.
Every time.
Also take note on how many times it was sprayed and you can figure out your # of runs per Bottle.
02-09-2009, 09:08 AM
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For me it's weighing the bottle.
Honestly when this car gets Nitrous, I havent decided on whether to Nano it or not, but either way, after I am done with the Nitrous for the day, the bottle comes out and get's weighed.
Every time.
Also take note on how many times it was sprayed and you can figure out your # of runs per Bottle.
Honestly when this car gets Nitrous, I havent decided on whether to Nano it or not, but either way, after I am done with the Nitrous for the day, the bottle comes out and get's weighed.
Every time.
Also take note on how many times it was sprayed and you can figure out your # of runs per Bottle.