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Old 05-22-2009, 08:22 PM
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Default 500+ hp motor plus 200shot what kind of fuel set up do i need

Ive got a 12.8-1 383 pushing 500+hp and i want to put a 200shot on it. I have all stock fuel system in the car otherthan the 255pump. I was told i can run a Stand Alone System but my issue i have right now is Money. So if i can figure out away to keep this entire fuel system under $600 that would be ****.
another thing would be i just install a 2nd wahlbro pump if thats the case i only see right ups on 98+ cars i have a 97 t.a so how can i do that. and will i still need the bucket in my gas tank for the pump cuz i was told i need the bucket. if this does work just by using the twin pump how much power is it capable of?
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Originally Posted by aug181983
Ive got a 12.8-1 383 pushing 500+hp and i want to put a 200shot on it. I have all stock fuel system in the car otherthan the 255pump. I was told i can run a Stand Alone System but my issue i have right now is Money. So if i can figure out away to keep this entire fuel system under $600 that would be ****.
another thing would be i just install a 2nd wahlbro pump if thats the case i only see right ups on 98+ cars i have a 97 t.a so how can i do that. and will i still need the bucket in my gas tank for the pump cuz i was told i need the bucket. if this does work just by using the twin pump how much power is it capable of?
You can make a stand alone setup for less than that which is your best option. Some of the guys on here have make ther own killer setups. I would recomend a return type fuel system if your not gonna do the stand alone.
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I have to agree with that. You can build your own complete standalone for less than $600, and it will likely outperform a kit that piggy-backs off of the current fuel system.
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you 2 just made my day but how bout a 255 pump plus a booster will that work or 255pump with controller. Also can 1 of you provide me with a link or someone that can give me a DIY
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if you gonna feed your fuel solenoid from the fuel rails , you should provide more fuel to the fuel rails to not coming lean when the fuel solenoid is opened and start to deliver fuel .

255 walbro will pump enough fuel to your fuel rails feeding your enjectors and your fuel solenoid .

IMO you should have no problem hitting 200hp on stock fuel rails and 255 walbro fuel pump .

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Originally Posted by alharbi
if you gonna feed your fuel solenoid from the fuel rails , you should provide more fuel to the fuel rails to not coming lean when the fuel solenoid is opened and start to deliver fuel .

255 walbro will pump enough fuel to your fuel rails feeding your enjectors and your fuel solenoid .

IMO you should have no problem hitting 200hp on stock fuel rails and 255 walbro fuel pump .

hope that helped
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i dont agree ive done reading myself and with the hotwire kit the 255 is good for i believe 600-650 tops. so 500+200 is pushing it
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Why not add another pump in the tank, running 2, wire up the hot kit to both, and have the second set up on a relay to come on when you hit the nitrous, then you could go even higher than 200, if you wanted to.

A stand alone is more hastle than you might think, having to check this and that all the time, you need another regulator to regulate pressure. A pump up front to pump fuel. Easily gets you above your budget that you mentioned. Check out the sticky at the top of the fuel section, for great info on a dual in tank for cheap.
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do a dedicated. its much simpler and safer imo. that way the tank only needs to support the motor as it normaly would.
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Dedicate it.

Im with Z28rob. I think the limits of the fuel system you have even with the 255 hotwire will be passed. You have spent this much money for the 383, might as well spend a little more to save it.
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Originally Posted by Black Sunshine/ 00SS
Why not add another pump in the tank, running 2, wire up the hot kit to both, and have the second set up on a relay to come on when you hit the nitrous, then you could go even higher than 200, if you wanted to.

A stand alone is more hastle than you might think, having to check this and that all the time, you need another regulator to regulate pressure. A pump up front to pump fuel. Easily gets you above your budget that you mentioned. Check out the sticky at the top of the fuel section, for great info on a dual in tank for cheap.
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Originally Posted by z28rob18
i dont agree ive done reading myself and with the hotwire kit the 255 is good for i believe 600-650 tops. so 500+200 is pushing it
i just did it b4
b4 i install my stand alone fuel system and a 2nd stage , i was runing 255 walbro and i was hitting 200hp almost every weekend for more than one year
A/F (on bottle) : 12.6

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Originally Posted by alharbi
i just did it b4
b4 i install my stand alone fuel system and a 2nd stage , i was runing 255 walbro and i was hitting 200hp almost every weekend for more than one year
A/F (on bottle) : 12.6

but were you maykin over 650hp? the pump is said to handle up to 650hp. so you can probably spray as much as you want with the one pump as long as your under that. im sure that the 255 could possibly handle his needs but its only a possibility and its not a sure thing lik a second pump or dedicated would be
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Originally Posted by ls2 bait
do a dedicated. its much simpler and safer imo. that way the tank only needs to support the motor as it normaly would.
+100 i was making less than 600 hp and didnt have enough fuel on the hit it would catch back up within a 1000-1500rpms but still didnt like that . Its not the hp rating of the pump its the volume when the shot hits it will suck the rails dry causing a bad lean spike which i didnt like and from what i seen it gives a false hp reading with that spike. we wouldnt have this problem if chevy did a return type fuel system with the regulator at the rails. The only way i see doing it with the 255 and stock stuff without a stand alone and not get a lean spike is progress the shot . It is so much easier on your intake pump to run a stand alone with some q16
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i have a racetronics kit in my car and with a 100 shot I would loose 8psi of fuel pressue.
Didn't like it so I installed a harris standalone
100 shot was no were near 650hp
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Just save up a little and get the stand alone well worth the piece of mind, and you can always run 110 in the cell!
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We can change our fuel systems to return at the rails pretty easily, that is main thing for making the stock style systems perform.
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