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Old 07-28-2009, 07:21 PM
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Default Biggest dry hit on 93 octane

Just like the title says, I was wondering what is the biggest hit I could run on pump gas.

I would like to run 100 or 150 but i dont know if it would be safe.
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Ran a 250 shot years ago at the Pump Gas Drags.

You'll be "OK" as long as the tune up is good.
Old 07-28-2009, 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by ATVracr
Ran a 250 shot years ago at the Pump Gas Drags.

You'll be "OK" as long as the tune up is good.
Wow, on a dry kit?

I would have figured wet.
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Originally Posted by ATVracr
Ran a 250 shot years ago at the Pump Gas Drags.

You'll be "OK" as long as the tune up is good.
so this is my basic understanding. The more octane the fuel has the more timing you can run safely. So if i ran a a 200 shot on 93 i would pull like 6 or 7 degrees of timing to be safe, but on 110 i would be safe only pulling like 4 degrees. Am I thinking the right way or am I totally off?
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Originally Posted by MelScrilla
so this is my basic understanding. The more octane the fuel has the more timing you can run safely. So if i ran a a 200 shot on 93 i would pull like 6 or 7 degrees of timing to be safe, but on 110 i would be safe only pulling like 4 degrees. Am I thinking the right way or am I totally off?
Right, but pull more than that.
Also cold plugs help it from burning up with less octane.


TS6, it was a hidden 2 stage dry.
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The more I read about dry and its tuning ways the more I am liking it. I especially like it on an aftermarket pcm like the FAST. so cool so cool.
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Originally Posted by ATVracr
Right, but pull more than that.
Also cold plugs help it from burning up with less octane.


TS6, it was a hidden 2 stage dry.
so are you still running your stock PCM or are you using an aftermarket unit. If your still on stock what did you use to pull the timing.

And we must see pics of your install. I really want a hidden setup but the only truly hidden one i've seen is the moneymaker. I want to stay dry so I would appreciate any tips on how to hide a dry system.
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Originally Posted by MelScrilla
so are you still running your stock PCM or are you using an aftermarket unit. If your still on stock what did you use to pull the timing.

And we must see pics of your install. I really want a hidden setup but the only truly hidden one i've seen is the moneymaker. I want to stay dry so I would appreciate any tips on how to hide a dry system.

It was on a stock PCM back then. We pulled timing out of the tune with HPtuners no trickers or anything.

There was nothing to see. We had 2 nozzles punched thru the air filter and the noids mounted to the underside of the airbox. all lines and wires were hidden well and loomed. People were all over the car that weekend and I dont think anyone ever found the kit. We told everyone it didnt have nitrous and that the 8 nitrous bottles behind the car were just for show. lol
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Originally Posted by ATVracr
It was on a stock PCM back then. We pulled timing out of the tune with HPtuners no trickers or anything.

There was nothing to see. We had 2 nozzles punched thru the air filter and the noids mounted to the underside of the airbox. all lines and wires were hidden well and loomed. People were all over the car that weekend and I dont think anyone ever found the kit. We told everyone it didnt have nitrous and that the 8 nitrous bottles behind the car were just for show. lol
thats crazy. I saw the N2O outlet halo kit that goes through the filter but if you shoot through the MAF, can you still use the hsw interface to add fuel?
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Found an old pic someone took at the race .... can you find the nitrous?



Here is the video from that weekend ...
http://www.glenburnieracing.com/videos/gb1.asx
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LOL @ the burnout box dude in the first 2 shots
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sweet setup. I would love to have something like that for the ricers in their evos and supras with 20 psi
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Originally Posted by ATVracr

Here is the video from that weekend ...
http://www.glenburnieracing.com/videos/gb1.asx
damn that was impressive. Thye must have had some badass cars out there if you were going 9.64 and not winning. Going into the nines in a full weight streetcar is my dream, what was your combo back then.
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I have a 200 shot dry without any problems. the main thing about a bigger dry shot is make sure you have the fuel system to support it and you dont drain your rails when the nitrous comes on. Dry is where its at with EFI intakes in my opinion.
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Originally Posted by lifted99GMC
I have a 200 shot dry without any problems. the main thing about a bigger dry shot is make sure you have the fuel system to support it and you dont drain your rails when the nitrous comes on. Dry is where its at with EFI intakes in my opinion.
what kind of fuel pump and injectors are you running with that setup.
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racetronix 255LPH/hotwire kit. stock lines, FAST rails, 64 lb/hr injectors.
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what's the line coming from the fuel rail for? FPSS?
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Originally Posted by gillbot
what's the line coming from the fuel rail for? FPSS?
No we dont use them.

The driver side is the inlet.... crosses over in the back and the passenger side is the regulator with a return.
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Originally Posted by lifted99GMC
racetronix 255LPH/hotwire kit. stock lines, FAST rails, 64 lb/hr injectors.
i like it........inexpensive but effective
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it works well. I have about 1000 pounds of nitrous through it with only a few pprobs (my mistakes. Popped Headgaskets). The fuel system is tapped at 800 rwhp though.

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