bottle heater and pressure gauge help needed - LS1TECH

Go Back   LS1TECH > LS1-LS2-LS3-LS6-LS7 PERFORMANCE > Nitrous Oxide
Log In 
Search


Nitrous Oxide
Installation | Tuning | Products


bottle heater and pressure gauge help needed

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 03-12-2010, 04:29 AM   #1
On The Tree
 
Trader Rating: 1
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 174
Default bottle heater and pressure gauge help needed

ok here is the deal
i bought a new relay from nitrous outlet and a few month back i turned the bottle heater on a few times and after a run or two of everything doing just fine i noticed it became harder to get my pressure up, meaning the heater had to stay on longer to bring it up to 800-900psi well because of that longer time i noticed that the power wire in the relay was getting so hot that it started melting the relay plastics.so that has kept me from using it since because i know with it being this cold outside i dont want to have to run the heater too long and cause it to melt more or fry or anything. btw, the wires i used for the wiring are as big if not bigger than the onew used in th relay, what can i do?

ok next issue, what product can i buy or do to have a pressure gauge up front with me instead of the one on the bottle, i would like to see it from my seat instead of going back to the STC to see what the pressure is at
Joinedthedarkside is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-12-2010, 08:17 AM   #2
11 Second Club
 
bigboykilroy's Avatar
 
Trader Rating: 46
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Aurora, Ohio
Posts: 732
Default

Where are you running the power wire from the relay to? To the Battery? to the fuse box?
__________________
98 TransAm WS9 Raim Air
bigboykilroy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-12-2010, 08:51 AM   #3
FormerVendor
 
Trader Rating: 18
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 735
Default

Pm'd your questions back
Brad@NANO Direct is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-12-2010, 09:38 AM   #4
On The Tree
 
Trader Rating: 1
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 174
Default

thanks, ummm i forget where i have it wired to, it was last summer, i will check again. but i may just go nano to avoid this whole thing
Joinedthedarkside is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-12-2010, 10:10 AM   #5
11 Second Club
 
bigboykilroy's Avatar
 
Trader Rating: 46
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Aurora, Ohio
Posts: 732
Default

You need to make sure the relay has a good source of power like direct to the battery or a positive terminal block, not tapped off a 12+wire somewhere.
__________________
98 TransAm WS9 Raim Air
bigboykilroy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-12-2010, 11:14 AM   #6
FormerVendor
 
Nick@HSW's Avatar
 
Trader Rating: 4
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Glenolden, PA
Posts: 1,955
Default

What gauge wire did you use?

Nick

Quote:
Originally Posted by Joinedthedarkside View Post
ok here is the deal
i bought a new relay from nitrous outlet and a few month back i turned the bottle heater on a few times and after a run or two of everything doing just fine i noticed it became harder to get my pressure up, meaning the heater had to stay on longer to bring it up to 800-900psi well because of that longer time i noticed that the power wire in the relay was getting so hot that it started melting the relay plastics.so that has kept me from using it since because i know with it being this cold outside i dont want to have to run the heater too long and cause it to melt more or fry or anything. btw, the wires i used for the wiring are as big if not bigger than the onew used in th relay, what can i do?

ok next issue, what product can i buy or do to have a pressure gauge up front with me instead of the one on the bottle, i would like to see it from my seat instead of going back to the STC to see what the pressure is at
Nick@HSW is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-12-2010, 03:48 PM   #7
TECH Senior Member
 
LilJayV10's Avatar
 
Trader Rating: 36
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Evansville,IN
Posts: 6,164
Default

X2 on the gauge question.
LilJayV10 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-12-2010, 03:56 PM   #8
TECH Fanatic
 
SkullV's Avatar
 
Trader Rating: 11
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 1,168
Default

The best way to add a gauge to the cabin/dash area is to get an electric nitrous pressure gauge with a sending unit. This way you don't have to run any extra nitrous lines back into the cabin. One example would be:

http://www.nitrousoutlet.com/catalog...7&product=3457
__________________
2005 Redline CTS-V -- SOLD
SkullV is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-13-2010, 03:03 AM   #9
On The Tree
 
Trader Rating: 1
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 174
Default

well i think that is the problem, i did not run it to a good enough power source, i knew i used a big enough wire i think it was like 10-12gauge wire but it is wired to a 12v source that is only like 20gauge so i am gonna rewire that wire straight to the battery or how about to a 4gauge power wire i used to run my amps off of. i no longer run the amps but still have the wire ran to the back
Joinedthedarkside is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-13-2010, 06:03 AM   #10
TECH Enthusiast
 
Trader Rating: 0
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Dickinson, Tx
Posts: 657
Default

^^^Odds are that was your problem. Make sure you have a fuse on that wire to the battery and the fuse is no more than 6" from the battery. A 4 gauge will work too.

By chance do you know what that wire went to that you spliced off from?
__________________
Blown 2003 Z
624/588
My lame Z build
My lame youtube channel
danieloneil01 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-14-2010, 09:09 AM   #11
On The Tree
 
Trader Rating: 1
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 174
Default

behind the tv so probably to the stock stereo or something i think.
Joinedthedarkside is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-15-2010, 10:43 AM   #12
FormerVendor
 
Nick@HSW's Avatar
 
Trader Rating: 4
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Glenolden, PA
Posts: 1,955
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Joinedthedarkside View Post
well i think that is the problem, i did not run it to a good enough power source, i knew i used a big enough wire i think it was like 10-12gauge wire but it is wired to a 12v source that is only like 20gauge so i am gonna rewire that wire straight to the battery or how about to a 4gauge power wire i used to run my amps off of. i no longer run the amps but still have the wire ran to the back
That's your issue. If you're pulling high amps through too thin of a gauge wire, you're gonna have all sorts of issues. Its ok to use a switched 12+ on another circuit to trip the relay but that's it. You need to pull the amp load from a suitable source such as a battery or remote terminal that is designed to handle the load.

Nick
Nick@HSW is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-16-2010, 12:48 AM   #13
LS1TECH & TRUCK Sponsor
 
Trader Rating: 25
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Waco, TX
Posts: 12,100
Default

Here is a good chart for amp vs wire vs lenth.
http://www.nitroustech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=330
__________________

http://www.nitrousoutlet.com
If you want the highest quality, highest flowing products backed by the most knowledgeable staff with full time tech service that answers the phones full time, responds to pms, emails and post on the boards with technical information our products and our company is the choice for you.
"The Bitterness of Poor Quality Lingers Long After The Sweetness Of Cheap Price Is Forgotten".
Nitro Dave's Nitrous Outlet is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Complete Nitrous N02 kit. Zex NOS NX express c6 batmobile Parts Classifieds 13 01-19-2013 12:24 AM
Best 12v source for bottle heater? sweet99ss Nitrous Oxide 24 01-27-2012 09:58 PM
Just CAN'T WIN... Bottle Heater not getting hot enough? 2001 Red Coupe Bandit Nitrous Oxide 17 05-24-2010 01:32 AM
Is a relay needed? krazy4 Nitrous Oxide 18 08-04-2008 12:44 PM
NOS bottle heater ?'s BayAreaSS Nitrous Oxide 8 06-11-2007 11:12 PM


Tags
bottle, gauge, harris, heater, hot, meaning, nitrous, nos, pressure, presure, relay, speedworks, warmer, wire, working


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off


 

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:24 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7 AC2
Copyright ©2000 - 2015, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Advertising - Terms of Service - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service - JOBS
Emails & Contact Details