Nitrous Outlet, come here!
06-17-2010, 04:29 PM
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Nitrous Outlet, come here! I'm going to unzip my vagina and let my ***** hang out and run a 175 shot. I'm running your 78mm plate with some NX solenoids. I've had the solenoids on the car and spraying for a little over 2 years. Do you think these solenoids are sufficient enough or should i upgrade?
Also, how much timing should i pull? 9 degrees? Will BR7EF's gapped at .32 be fine?
and most important, what jetting would be around a 175 shot? 67N 36-38F?
Also, how much timing should i pull? 9 degrees? Will BR7EF's gapped at .32 be fine?
and most important, what jetting would be around a 175 shot? 67N 36-38F?
06-17-2010, 04:48 PM
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06-17-2010, 10:31 PM
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Yea i have that jetting chart and jets up to 250. I can tell you one thing and that is their chart on the fuel side is way rich. A 150 in most cases should be N62 F33. I hit the dyno after i installed the plate. I went off their chart for the 150 shot. My afr's dipped into the 9's with that .38 fuel jet, pig rich! Took it out and put the .33 back in. I was told from another member on here that a .67N .36F would be around a 175 shot. A .73 jet seems huge for a 175 hit.
06-17-2010, 10:38 PM
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So your 150 is 62/33? That helps me for that is what I will be spraying very soon. Did you check the a/f with the 33 in there since the 38 put you into the 9s?
06-18-2010, 01:50 PM
#15
The online calculators are a generic form of coming up with a close jetting. However it is not the most accurate way of doing so. It does not take into calculation certain things.
Different products have different flow charastics. For example a plate versus a nozzle may have complete different jetting. Two different types of directports may have a different jetting as well. The jetting is determained by flow.. Not an online conversion.
All of our jetting is figured at the rear wheel. And if you look at our customers results its pretty much dead nuts on.
Your best bet is to always listen to the manufacture that makes the parts you are using. Not some one online or your buddy down the street. After all how could they know more about a product than the company that makes it?
A 175 jetting is 73 nitrous and at 55psi we suggest a 38 fuel pill. Our jetting is rated at the rear wheel not the fly wheel. We are more interested in rear wheel horse power than fly wheel horse power.
So happens if you look at many of the nitrous companies that use rear wheel hp on there single nozzle systems they are seeing a 73 jet as being 175 at the fly wheel as well.
Our plate shares the same flow charistics as our nozzle as far as X amount of nitrous flow equals X amount of power to the rear wheel.
Listen to us. We know more about our product than anyone else.. Only makes since right?
Dave
Different products have different flow charastics. For example a plate versus a nozzle may have complete different jetting. Two different types of directports may have a different jetting as well. The jetting is determained by flow.. Not an online conversion.
All of our jetting is figured at the rear wheel. And if you look at our customers results its pretty much dead nuts on.
Your best bet is to always listen to the manufacture that makes the parts you are using. Not some one online or your buddy down the street. After all how could they know more about a product than the company that makes it?
A 175 jetting is 73 nitrous and at 55psi we suggest a 38 fuel pill. Our jetting is rated at the rear wheel not the fly wheel. We are more interested in rear wheel horse power than fly wheel horse power.
So happens if you look at many of the nitrous companies that use rear wheel hp on there single nozzle systems they are seeing a 73 jet as being 175 at the fly wheel as well.
Our plate shares the same flow charistics as our nozzle as far as X amount of nitrous flow equals X amount of power to the rear wheel.
Listen to us. We know more about our product than anyone else.. Only makes since right?
Dave
06-18-2010, 02:29 PM
#16
Answer me this dave... you use a 62 jet for the 150 as well as a couple other companies use that same size jet for that shot, yet for the 175 and 200 you use a significantly larger jets then those same companies for those same size shot. Now you say its based on flow... so your plate needs more jet to flow what the other companies nozzles/plates flow for that given hp from 175 up??? Kinda see what im getting at here.
06-18-2010, 02:40 PM
#17
Answer me this dave... you use a 62 jet for the 150 as well as a couple other companies use that same size jet for that shot, yet for the 175 and 200 you use a significantly larger jets then those same companies for those same size shot. Now you say its based on flow... so your plate needs more jet to flow what the other companies nozzles/plates flow for that given hp from 175 up??? Kinda see what im getting at here.
I am limited to what I will share in the area as some of it is propriatary knowledge.
Why dont you break down what you are comparing what to and I will do my best to explain it to you with what info I am willing to share.
Dave
06-18-2010, 02:54 PM
#18
All I was comparing was the jet size needed for a certain shot. and how they are mostly the same for all manufactures at 150 but then get different and some by a large margin which leads me to flow and you obviously need more jet to flow x amount of nitrous to reach the 175 or 200 hp level.
Now im not arguing or saying so and so is better, but just an interesting observation.
06-18-2010, 03:36 PM
#19
Thats a lot of research I really dont feel like doing really. It was just interesting to me so I thought I would comment on the jet size vs flow part.
All I was comparing was the jet size needed for a certain shot. and how they are mostly the same for all manufactures at 150 but then get different and some by a large margin which leads me to flow and you obviously need more jet to flow x amount of nitrous to reach the 175 or 200 hp level.
Now im not arguing or saying so and so is better, but just an interesting observation.
All I was comparing was the jet size needed for a certain shot. and how they are mostly the same for all manufactures at 150 but then get different and some by a large margin which leads me to flow and you obviously need more jet to flow x amount of nitrous to reach the 175 or 200 hp level.
Now im not arguing or saying so and so is better, but just an interesting observation.
Dave
