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Old 12-05-2011, 11:25 AM
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I am now having trouble deciding if I want to hook the nitrous kit I recently bought us! I sort of wanna stay all motor, but I am afraid I won't be happy with the car. The best pass this year was an 11.2 and has trapped 125mph but I think it could have went 11.0-11.1. The car currently has 4.11s in it but if I stay all motor I would go 4.30s. The car weighed 3510lbs with me in it and a 1/8 tank of gas. What's the fastest you guys think the car would go on motor with 4.30s and 28in slicks? On nitrous? I am not wanting to gut the car, maybe pull the rear seats out and passenger seat but that's about it. I want to keep the AC and all the goodies as the car sees a lot of street time.

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Car makes 438hp. Any suggestions or inputs on what it would do on motor? What about times on a 150 shot?

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100 shot will net you solid 10s and 150 should get you low 10s.

I doubt swaping from 4.11s to 4.30s will gain you much at all. Certainly nothing close to what the nitrous will.
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Originally Posted by custm2500
100 shot will net you solid 10s and 150 should get you low 10s.

I doubt swaping from 4.11s to 4.30s will gain you much at all. Certainly nothing close to what the nitrous will.
I have some front suspension on the way so I figured that and some gears would help but definitely nothing like spray. I was goning to try 4.56s with a 28 but I think that won't be enough gear.
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Stay away from nitrous it is no fun!

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Originally Posted by N2RACINGLS1's
Stay away from nitrous it is no fun!

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Do people still run on just motor? Motor passes are
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Originally Posted by N2RACINGLS1's
Stay away from nitrous it is no fun!

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Do people still run on just motor? Motor passes are
Come on fellas! Give me a break! LOL I'm probably gonna end up spraying it. Hit it with a 150 shot and hope it goes at least 10.5, but I'm really hoping for a 10.2.
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Originally Posted by 95civic2005
Come on fellas! Give me a break! LOL I'm probably gonna end up spraying it. Hit it with a 150 shot and hope it goes at least 10.5, but I'm really hoping for a 10.2.
In all seriousness the car in your signature will go 9s easy on spray. Research like crazy on suspension, plug reading, timing and get lot's of seat time. It is very doable with your setup.
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Originally Posted by Carter01
In all seriousness the car in your signature will go 9s easy on spray. Research like crazy on suspension, plug reading, timing and get lot's of seat time. It is very doable with your setup.
Yeah it's the car in my sig. I'm sure it can go 9s but I'm not sure I wanna spray that big of a shot. I have a Nitrous Outlet kit, but the only thing it's lacking is the standalone fuel cell. How big of a shot you think it would take to run 9s? How fast you think it would go with a 150 shot? I have a lot to learn about the whole plug reading thing, so I will be doing lots of reading on that.

Btw, what you have done with your car is bada$$! I have looked up some of the posts and you sure know what you're doing with that car! Congrats on the new time too!
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With your MPH NA you should be able to run 10.8's or better. 100 shot should get you a 9.9
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With your MPH NA you should be able to run 10.8's or better. 100 shot should get you a 9.9
Possible but I would not get my hopes on a 10 sec car with only a 100 shot. I would set a goal of 11.2 and if you do better great.
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Originally Posted by wws699
With your MPH NA you should be able to run 10.8's or better. 100 shot should get you a 9.9
I think the car has 10.90s or so the way it sits but I didn't want to make certain adjustments to it this year becasue I would have had to change them back next year for spray.

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Possible but I would not get my hopes on a 10 sec car with only a 100 shot. I would set a goal of 11.2 and if you do better great.
I'll be hitting it with a 150 and if nothing happens to the car, as far as breaking, and it doesn't go 10s I'll be selling it that day for sure!
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I would suggest not starting with 150 HP shot of nitrous. Start out with a 75 HP shot of nitrous and get your tune spot and then work your way up. Nitrous is magic power and you have to use it wisely.

Good luck and have fun! You will be in the 10's with just a 75 HP shot of nitrous.

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Originally Posted by wws699
With your MPH NA you should be able to run 10.8's or better. 100 shot should get you a 9.9
Very optimistic, don't be disappointed if you you don't come anywhere near a 9 with a 100 shot. The faster you go the more nitrous it takes to go fast. Ex. I've seen a 100 shot knock an 11.8 car to a 10.90, but a 11.2 car won't gain a full second on a 100 shot.
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Originally Posted by N2RACINGLS1's
I would suggest not starting with 150 HP shot of nitrous. Start out with a 75 HP shot of nitrous and get your tune spot and then work your way up. Nitrous is magic power and you have to use it wisely.

Good luck and have fun! You will be in the 10's with just a 75 HP shot of nitrous.

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Thanks for the advice! I'm sure we will start smaller and my plans are to increase to a 150 shot. Guess we'll see when I go get it tuned. Can't wait!

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Very optimistic, don't be disappointed if you you don't come anywhere near a 9 with a 100 shot. The faster you go the more nitrous it takes to go fast. Ex. I've seen a 100 shot knock an 11.8 car to a 10.90, but a 11.2 car won't gain a full second on a 100 shot.
If the car goes low 10s (hoping 10.2) with a 150 shot I'll be happy with that! Guess we'll see come spring tho.
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Start at 100 shot to get your feet wet. Make some passes then step up to 150.

150 will get you 10s for sure. How low is an answer only time can tell. Like I said 11.2 on 100 shot, 10.8 on the 150. Again those are conservative and hopefully your times will be a tenth of two faster.
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Did I miss something he has already traveled down the 1/4 mile to a best ET of 11.2 and trapped 125 MPH according to the first post? The car will go 10's with a 75 HP shot of nitrous. Trust me start small and work your way up. This is a different game than NA tune ups!

I say 10.85 on a 75 HP shot of nitrous as long as the car cuts a good 60 foot time.

Good luck and have fun!

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listen to anything carter01 has to say,his car still makes my jaw hit the ground!i would just take it slow, it will be no time before you will want more than 150 shot lol
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Originally Posted by N2RACINGLS1's
Did I miss something he has already traveled down the 1/4 mile to a best ET of 11.2 and trapped 125 MPH according to the first post? The car will go 10's with a 75 HP shot of nitrous. Trust me start small and work your way up. This is a different game than NA tune ups!

I say 10.85 on a 75 HP shot of nitrous as long as the car cuts a good 60 foot time.

Good luck and have fun!

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I was wondering if I missed something myself. I just want spring to get here so I can get started and see what it'll do!
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listen to anything carter01 has to say,his car still makes my jaw hit the ground!i would just take it slow, it will be no time before you will want more than 150 shot lol
Yep, I agree with you on Carter01! Sounds like N2 knows what he's talking about as well. I probably will want more than a 150 shot next year but I really don't want to spray much more than that without a stand alone fuel cell.
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Also, anyone know where I could get a wiring diagram to hook up the 2-step with the spray as well? I should probably give nitrous outlet a call and see if they have anything.



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