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Old 12-17-2013, 04:51 PM
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Lookikg to use nitrous for first time. Having it tuned for a 200 shot for now. Max 300. Its on a 102 plate kit. Have a remote bottle opener. Bottle heater. Purge. Micro switch. Engine compression is a 12.6. Also have the msd 6010 6als box. With wiring harness. Wanting to have 2 tunes. One max na.. and either have a toggle switch or a device so when I wanna use the giggle juice it will pull the timing with the msd box to have it safely ran. Need all advice and help.
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More than likely the guys on here will tell you the lnc-2000 is the way to go and will do exactly what you want to do.
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Hopefully theyll chime in soon. Iv spent to much money for this mess up. Just want to do it right
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Yep i'm running the LNC-2000 here. How I have mine setup is that it will pull timing only when the arming switch is on and i'm at WOT. This is a great way to instantly pull timing while on the fly
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You can use a relay and a resistor as an iat timing tricker (search that) to tell the PCM the iat is a certain temp. Then just tune those cells on your tune to pull out the timing you want to. Wire that relay to the same wire that goes to you n20/fuel noids. When the noids activate so does ur iat tricker..easy day.
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Originally Posted by redgto4u
You can use a relay and a resistor as an iat timing tricker (search that) to tell the PCM the iat is a certain temp. Then just tune those cells on your tune to pull out the timing you want to. Wire that relay to the same wire that goes to you n20/fuel noids. When the noids activate so does ur iat tricker..easy day.


Sounds complicated. It may be easy idk. Just looking for easiest amd safest way fo this. Also somthing with ease of mind. The toggle switch or somthing the other guy said sounds good to. Keep the posts coming. How much for that 2000 device thing? How hard is it to hook up?
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So cant the MSD 6010 do this all? Or can I use msd amd the lnc 2000? Or one will be fighting the other? I can use the msd box for timing and spark control. Rpm limit. Idle. And 2 step. Is what a friend told me so I got it. Its new in the box still. Is the lnc better or should I use both?
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Also. How do yal have yals nitrous fuel setup? What plugs and gap are yal using for that big of a shot. How much timing yal pulling out of it? . Sorry for all the questions. Just trying cover everything
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I also use the LNC 2000 with a NOS Mini. Thing with the activation switch pulling the timing your sitting there with the timing pulled waiting to go and they run like **** alteast mine does. So I use a relay in between the lncs positive activation and the nos minis negative output. So this makes it when your sitting there activated it still runs great and as soon as you hit the window when you want to spray it kicks the lnc on to pull the timing. You can also program in a slight delay on the timing being pulled if needed. Little complicated but so far i like it car runs great waiting to line up step on it and shes gone!
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Originally Posted by ws6guy27
Also. How do yal have yals nitrous fuel setup? What plugs and gap are yal using for that big of a shot. How much timing yal pulling out of it? . Sorry for all the questions. Just trying cover everything
People use the lnc also due how easy it is to install pretty much plug and play with a few splices.

200 shot should start to look at a stand alone with c16 in it. Fuel pressure will depend on the jet size chosen to run but most use low pressure with a stand alone for the bigger tuning window. I ran br7s with a 200 with c16 but every setup is different. Gap I had mine around .28ish. Timing at any shot everyone says do 2 degrees per 50 hp is the safe way to start and adjust from there.
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Originally Posted by scantone1
I also use the LNC 2000 with a NOS Mini. Thing with the activation switch pulling the timing your sitting there with the timing pulled waiting to go and they run like **** alteast mine does. So I use a relay in between the lncs positive activation and the nos minis negative output. So this makes it when your sitting there activated it still runs great and as soon as you hit the window when you want to spray it kicks the lnc on to pull the timing. You can also program in a slight delay on the timing being pulled if needed. Little complicated but so far i like it car runs great waiting to line up step on it and shes gone!
I run mine off my activation button so it doesn't pull timing until I hit the button. You can wire it to your solenoids instead of a relay and it will do the same thing.
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Originally Posted by scantone1
People use the lnc also due how easy it is to install pretty much plug and play with a few splices.

200 shot should start to look at a stand alone with c16 in it. Fuel pressure will depend on the jet size chosen to run but most use low pressure with a stand alone for the bigger tuning window. I ran br7s with a 200 with c16 but every setup is different. Gap I had mine around .28ish. Timing at any shot everyone says do 2 degrees per 50 hp is the safe way to start and adjust from there.


So the br7s are they ngk? Or what brand. Are theg good for na power as well? I heard about c16 for nitrous but I dont wqnna foul out my o2 sensors. Will they? I think everything os close just trying get all the little quirks out of it..

also do I need to get rid of the msd box or can I use the msd 6als and the lnc 2000? Need know.
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Originally Posted by 87silverbullet
I run mine off my activation button so it doesn't pull timing until I hit the button. You can wire it to your solenoids instead of a relay and it will do the same thing.
I wanna do whats easiest and best to use. I wanna be able fix it if I have any problems
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The LNC-2000 or the EFI Live COS are both good options for pulling timing.I think the LNC is more along the lines of what you're looking for. We sell the LNC-2000 for $274.95. Let me know if I can help you out.
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Originally Posted by brandon@nitrousoutlet
The LNC-2000 or the EFI Live COS are both good options for pulling timing.I think the LNC is more along the lines of what you're looking for. We sell the LNC-2000 for $274.95. Let me know if I can help you out.


Yeah its what I was thinkjng to the efi live is more for carbs I think. Can u tell me if I need get rid of my msd 6als ?
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So you're running the carb MSD box. Well we all know you can't use EFI live for that. IIRC there is a triggered timing retard built into that box so you won't have to spend any money.

It says the pink wire is a 12 volt trigger and you can pull up to 15 degrees of timing. So no need for an LNC-2000
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No im not running carb. I running a fast 102 with a 102 plate kit. Can I still just use thr msd 6als box? Or do I need the lnc 2000? Or both? just trying be clear
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Originally Posted by ws6guy27
No im not running carb. I running a fast 102 with a 102 plate kit. Can I still just use thr msd 6als box? Or do I need the lnc 2000? Or both? just trying be clear
What do you have running your coils? Because you have me all confused right now with the 6 als stuff. There is a 6 AL box and there is a 6 LS box not a 6als box.

If you have efi on the car, IMO you don't need any aftermarket ignition setup. Just run the stock coils with the efi you have.
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His car is EFI with a fast 102 I think he's just exploring options. OP feel free to give me a call at the shop and I can help you out. A lot gets lost in translation over forums


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