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100% engine protection from an N2O shot gone bad....does it exist...?

Old 05-10-2014, 10:46 AM
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Default 100% engine protection from an N2O shot gone bad....does it exist...?

I don't keep up on the latest NOS stuff.....

Any way these days to totally protect an engine when a part of a NOS system fails during a hard run on spray....?

If so.......tell me whats needed for a dual stage 250 shot (100/150). I would want the ability to choose to spray just one shot (100) or both shots (dual 250) on the fly if that's possible.

It will be for my new fully forged iron 390ci. I plan to get new heads and intake if anyone has a recommendation for that. I have crappy LS1 heads that flow 304 cfm.....LOL.......and an LS6 intake. So gaining more N/A power, maybe 70-80 RWHP would be nice. Cam change too if needed.

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Tune it lean and dial the timing wayyyyyyyy back. It's about the only fail safe that will work all the time if something fails.
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Originally Posted by 87silverbullet
Tune it lean and dial the timing wayyyyyyyy back. It's about the only fail safe that will work all the time if something fails.
So with a Timing Tuner I can drive around at max N/A power.....then right before I spray the Timing Tuner will pull the timing......?


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I'm not sure that there is anything that can do that. 100% safe ??

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NOS = Nitrous Oxide Systems (A supplier/Mfg.)

N2O is Nitrous Oxide

Not a big deal.....but maybe to a few
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Originally Posted by LS6427
So with a Timing Tuner I can drive around at max N/A power.....then right before I spray the Timing Tuner will pull the timing......?


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Yes if you trigger it on your activation button or your nitrous controller.
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Originally Posted by Doug G
I'm not sure that there is anything that can do that. 100% safe ??

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NOS = Nitrous Oxide Systems (A supplier/Mfg.)

N2O is Nitrous Oxide

Not a big deal.....but maybe to a few
Oops........fixed.....

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Originally Posted by 87silverbullet
Yes if you trigger it on your activation button or your nitrous controller.
Ok, sounds good. So Im assuming a N2O system can be ready to spray in a few seconds time? Quick arming?

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Safest system is going to be a window switch on each shot of spray. I am sure you could put a safety pressure switch on the nitrous line and fuel line. And get a wide ban that also has a shut off built in if you get too far for safety(not sure it exist but I would think so).

Basically you can't have a 100% fail safe system without some ridiculous sensors and then if you wanted to consider it 100% you would need to be redundant at least twice.

A window switch, and forged 390 along with a wide band and a little bit of brains on your part is about 99% fail safe. The engine will handle a bit of abuse if something does go wrong and your brain stops quickly if the gage or sounds tell you something is out of wack
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Safest system is going to be a window switch on each shot of spray. I am sure you could put a safety pressure switch on the nitrous line and fuel line. And get a wide ban that also has a shut off built in if you get too far for safety(not sure it exist but I would think so).

Basically you can't have a 100% fail safe system without some ridiculous sensors and then if you wanted to consider it 100% you would need to be redundant at least twice.

A window switch, and forged 390 along with a wide band and a little bit of brains on your part is about 99% fail safe. The engine will handle a bit of abuse if something does go wrong and your brain stops quickly if the gage or sounds tell you something is out of wack
So basically if anything starts to go wrong or a gauge tells you something is happening....does taking your foot immediately off the gas make everything negative that's happening.....go away and youre ok.?

Or can things keep going bad even after you have lifted your foot?

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A A/F gage will tell you very quickly that nitrous or fuel aren't spraying. Once you let off your full throttle switch will open and stop powering the noids along with the window switch will quickly be out of range also.

Once you are off the throttle you should be safe. I guess the nitrous noid could be stuck on(wouldn't have an issue while racing) then you would go lean after the kit stopped spraying it's fuel.

Basically a small bit a brains, reasonably aged parts(new to 4-6 years I would say are a sure bet), and the common safety nets and your chances of having a catastrophic failure are about 1 in a billion.
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There is no 100% failsafe to protect any combo, nitrous boost or NA. You can add in all the safety's (I recommend) widow switch, FPSS, etc but even with those items theres no guarantee you wont tear anything up. The best way to help increase your chances of NOT tearing your car up is to get educated on nitrous, tuning, plugs etc and take small steps. Start out small (50 shot) and work your way as you learn more and take your time. Ask lot of questions if your not sure.
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Alot of it is in the tune. There are safety features as mentioned above, such as an RPM window switch, fuel pressure safety switch, lean protection modules and AFR correction. These will help alot in the event that something does happen. Very important to pay attention to timing, and read the plugs. If you have any other questions, let us know!

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Thanks for the info everyone....

So who is the guru of Nitrous tuning.....in South Florida? Or anywhere in Florida?

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