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Old 02-13-2015, 06:32 PM
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i was looking at buyin c16 for my new standalone setup and running a .072 jet. 200hp. went to vp fuel site to see what the cost was. seen they had a x16 that was new. says for nitrous and all motor cars . up to 300 shot. just curious what u all thought about it.
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SPECIFICATION SHEET FOR C-16

(Typical Values) Specific Gravity: .735 @ 60°F

Lead: Yes

Color: Blue

Motor Octane: 117

Reid Vapor Pressure: 1.85

Oxidation Stability (min.) 1440+

Distillation:
10% evap @ 211.5°F

50% evap @ 213.1°F

90% evap @ 215.8°F

E.P. @ 233.3°F

Production: Elmendorf, Texas USA

Availability: Sealed Drums

Rev: 07/00
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Specification Sheet: VP X16
(Typical Values)

Specific Gravity: .710 @ 60°F

Lead: Yes

Color: Red

Motor Octane: 114

R+M/2: 116

Research Octane: 118

Reid Vapor Pressure: 6 psi

Oxygen Content = None

Oxidation Stability (min.) 1440+

Distillation:.
10% evap @ 155.7°F
50% evap @ 219.4°F
90% evap @ 254.3°F

E.P @ 384.0°F

Availability: Sealed Drums

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Originally Posted by dekan513
i was looking at buyin c16 for my new standalone setup and running a .072 jet. 200hp. went to vp fuel site to see what the cost was. seen they had a x16 that was new. says for nitrous and all motor cars . up to 300 shot. just curious what u all thought about it.
Save some money and use c12 if that's all you're spraying.
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Originally Posted by WE TODD DID
Save some money and use c12 if that's all you're spraying.
alot ppl recommend q16 or ms109
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I was thinking ms109 also
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Originally Posted by dekan513
alot ppl recommend q16 or ms109
Those are oxygenated, so tune accordingly.
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right, i think i may just run ms109. so wont be to bad on my 02's . i think it should be plenty for my car.
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right, i think i may just run ms109. so wont be to bad on my 02's . i think it should be plenty for my car.
Do you plan on using it just when you race or all the time? If you switch back and forth, you're gonna find that it will be lean on the 109, if you don't put fuel in the tune. The oxygenated fuel requires more fuel, plus that has ethanol in it I believe. Neither of which is a bad thing if you can adjust accordingly. Check the price of c12 in your area, or even 110...you may be surprised.
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in the standalone. yea all the time in there. get bluecat to tune it on that. then go to the track and dail it on off the plugs.

very few places around me that carry it. i know a dirt tracker that sells 110 leaded. then i got another buddy thats a vp dealer but he dont keep much on hand. c16 is what he runs and keeps mostly. but im sure he can get anything vp . was looking 5 gallons would probably last me all season if i can keep it sealed up in the tank the send it in. thats about 80-90 bucks off vp site for ms109. at the trake they keep. 108 i think and 112 octane aswell. its was 8 bucks a gallon and 9 last year. but i dont really trust that fuel to much. as iknow its untelling how long its been there and ive heard some guys getting rust and stuff when using it. im not running a filter on my standalone. i know bad ideal. but i strain my fuel thur a paint strainer. then thur another cloth like strainer pouring it into my fuel cell.

how long u think that fuel will last in one of those 5 gallon cans that vp ships the fuel in. i dont go to the track every weekend. and a gallon of fuel in a cell on a 200 hit should last for a while. basically i want the safest fuel to keep from detenation as its alrdy pushin the stock bottomend. i wish i would of pull the motor and gapped my rings this winter and offset them.

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In my experience racing motorcycles the oxygenated fuels didnt keep their potentcy too long once opened. A few weeks at most before mph started going down. And dont leave it sit in your fuel system longer than overnight at the track, it has a tendency to break down and gum up quickly when exposed to air. I never had a problem keeping the non oxygenated fuels for a couple months at a time if I kept it sealed up.
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When I was using nitrous I would just run c16 in the standalone. Now on my boosted setup I run pump/meth as a mild tune and my kill tune is with the unleaded-oxygenated Sunoco 104/meth.

Have your tune on point and you will be fine.



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