Fast 102 plate kit problems
01-18-2016, 09:38 PM
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Fast 102 plate kit problems Fast 102 with a Plate KIt Questions. Need Help!!!! Without throwing the plate kit manufacture under the bus I'm just gonna company A. So I bought the complete plate kit as specked out by the manufacture with the understanding that the plate would flow as advertised which is a 400 shot of juice. I am running a dedicated fuel system when spraying. We installed the 200 225 and the 250 jets by there jet charts it doesn't matter witch jets are installed the most that we can get it to pick up on the dyno is about 140 hp. All testing is being performed on the dyno so that we can see actual correct gains or lack there of. Got those of you that are running plate kits what actual gains are you seeing. No offense I would like actual dyno results if at all possible.
01-18-2016, 09:41 PM
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We are pulling 6 degrees of timing out on the pulls. And yeah I'm running a low pressure setup. Fuel pressure is showing rite at 10 PSI however I'm wondering if the gauge is reading correctly. Timing is spot on on N/A pulls. Car is making awesome power before spraying. Compression is about 11:2 Im using the Nitrous Outlet jetting chart. Just stumped!!!
01-18-2016, 10:36 PM
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Although the solenoids and maybe the plate are capable of flowing 400hp it may not come that way from initial setup. I know my plate kit came with a -4 main feed nitrous line and when I tried to spray 300 I couldn't because it could flow that much. Switching to a -6 line would solve that part easily though. There could be other limiting factors too.
Call manufacturer A(lol) and let them know and they can help you get what you need to turn it up.
Call manufacturer A(lol) and let them know and they can help you get what you need to turn it up.
01-19-2016, 06:15 AM
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Have any of you see the plates have a distribution problem? blk00ss my thinking is like yours, I'm thinking If I am running 200 pills in the kit, then I would think that the end result should be very close to the jet size. I could see a small difference but not 50 or I wouldn't think so.
01-19-2016, 09:11 AM
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What bottle pressure are you using? Also, is the dedicated fuel system at 10PSI flowing fuel pressure, or 10PSI static? I want to go through your system with you and help you out. Give me a call today at 254-848-4300 Ext. 104 and I'll see what we can do FOR YOU-
01-19-2016, 07:15 PM
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What bottle pressure are you using? Also, is the dedicated fuel system at 10PSI flowing fuel pressure, or 10PSI static? I want to go through your system with you and help you out. Give me a call today at 254-848-4300 Ext. 104 and I'll see what we can do FOR YOU-
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Fast 102 dual stage plate kit here also. I had to go to 6an line and I went to 2 bottles in back to not loose pressure when 2nd stage hit. I used high pressure in my stand alone 55 psi. It does drop on the initial hit then ramps right back up. I did have to pull more timing for the 2nd hit and instead of 110 in the standalone I went to 116. I dont dyno, I track, car goes faster and doesnt burn plugs then I did something right. Burns plugs, or slows down well back to the drawing board. It seems distribution can be an issue at the higher levels. timing and the 116 was the biggest help in dialing it in.
01-19-2016, 07:58 PM
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On the dual stage (at least for me) I liked the high pressure in that in pressure drop isnt as effected as in low pressure. You drop 1-2 pnds in a low pressure system and thats a big difference, drop a few pounds in a high pressure system and seems to be more forgiving. Better have great filters on a high pressure system as the pills are so small (hole dia)
01-20-2016, 08:09 AM
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2 cents I believe its a distribution issue, how can you get a consistent flow across the motor starting from the front across all 8 cylinders? I believe that's why the power is all over the board and afr is all crazy.
for instance if you can get an even flow across all 8 cylinders why wouldn't you have one injector instead of 8.
I believe at 100 maybe 150 shot you may can get it to break up some what consistent and make the power but any more than that your just over loading certain cylinders.
for instance if you can get an even flow across all 8 cylinders why wouldn't you have one injector instead of 8.
I believe at 100 maybe 150 shot you may can get it to break up some what consistent and make the power but any more than that your just over loading certain cylinders.
01-20-2016, 10:05 AM
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Have not had a distribution issue on any of our plate kit installs regardless if NA or FI(supercharged or turbo). But have only gone upto 300 shot.
On a 2010 Camaro with 450rwhp and 427tq adding a 200 shot ended up with 640rwhp and 800tw
On a 2010 Camaro with 450rwhp and 427tq adding a 200 shot ended up with 640rwhp and 800tw
01-20-2016, 06:38 PM
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Fast 102 with a Plate KIt Questions. Need Help!!!! Without throwing the plate kit manufacture under the bus I'm just gonna company A. So I bought the complete plate kit as specked out by the manufacture with the understanding that the plate would flow as advertised which is a 400 shot of juice. I am running a dedicated fuel system when spraying. We installed the 200 225 and the 250 jets by there jet charts it doesn't matter witch jets are installed the most that we can get it to pick up on the dyno is about 140 hp. All testing is being performed on the dyno so that we can see actual correct gains or lack there of. Got those of you that are running plate kits what actual gains are you seeing. No offense I would like actual dyno results if at all possible.
01-21-2016, 07:47 AM
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Have not had a distribution issue on any of our plate kit installs regardless if NA or FI(supercharged or turbo). But have only gone upto 300 shot.
SRTKLLR what brand plate are you running? As id like to see some more data.
On a 2010 Camaro with 450rwhp and 427tq adding a 200 shot ended up with 640rwhp and 800tw
SRTKLLR what brand plate are you running? As id like to see some more data.
On a 2010 Camaro with 450rwhp and 427tq adding a 200 shot ended up with 640rwhp and 800tw
I am running a 102mm Nitrous Outlet plate on an LS402. Motor puts out 515 rwhp on dyno n/a and runs a 11.35 at 120 mph. I run a 300 shot through the plate (.099 N20 and .045 fuel) and it runs 9.66 at 141 mph. I don't have dyno data but that seems right for a 300 shot on a 4000 llb car. On the 300 shot the plugs (ngk#10s) show good distribution. The plate can handle a 300 shot easily but as you know every car is different and needs its own tune based on what the plugs tell you. I have 6an line from the bottles and NANO system feeding from a 10 llb bottle. A/F starts at 12:5 and goes as low as 12:1 by end of run. Hope this helps.
01-21-2016, 08:33 AM
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I'm sure you have a 6an line from the bottle to the noid. What size is the line from the noid to the plate. A 3an will max about where your are seeing. The Canadians results are easy to quantify. Track results are as good if not better than dyno. He is picking up 21 mph and nearly 2 seconds on 300 in a 4000 lbs car. Mine picks up 16 mph, 1.5 seconds on 200 in a 3500 lbs combo.
01-21-2016, 12:16 PM
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01-22-2016, 07:18 AM
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No sir I have not as of yet, it will be this weekend ( weather permitting )before we have a chance to get back on it.
I will give you a call today as I have a couple of questions concerning flowing my fuel supply and setting it all up.
I will give you a call today as I have a couple of questions concerning flowing my fuel supply and setting it all up.