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Old 12-19-2005, 12:48 PM
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I am interested to see if this is safe. It sounds to me that it would allow for some low/mid 11 second runs How would this compare to a completely stock ls1 on boost?
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Depending on if it's wet or dry...some have done it. IMO, I would get bigger pump and/or fuel injectors. If you want to do it safely on existing stock equipment, if that is what you have, then put in some higher octane gas - 100+octane.
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I don't mind upgrading the pump and/or injectors. If that is done, how much of a shot can I run? What about with ARP bolts?
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I run 150 wet shot, the stock pump is ok, but I upgraded mine just to be safe. You dont need injectors if you use a wet kit. Change to a colder plug as well.
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If you run the wet kit and upgrade the pump/injectors, the sky is the limit...within reason. Some have run 200, 250, etc.
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NOSJohn, so with injectors, pump and arp rod bolts, you think a 200 shot would be ok on an otherwise stock ls1?
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Yes, as long as you have the other minor add-ins that help aid in correct nitrous usage.
I.E. - fuel pressure safety switch, window switch, correct plugs and a correct tune. With a 200 shot I would probably take out from 3-6 degrees of timing.
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when i first put the kit in my 00 formula, all i had was a slp airlid. set for 200 motor rating (143 rwhp). went 11.97 @ 118.

currently, slp airlid, k/n filter, bassani tru-duals, yank py3400e, 4.10 gears, it went 11.66 @ 117.67 having to shift into 4th about 60ft before the end.

now have 3.73 gears. we'll see what happens around january.
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You do not need bigger injectors to run a 150 wet shot...If it is a TNT kt we are talking about, you need to upgrade the pump. Other than that you'll be fine, though I highly recommend a wideband O2. Then again Id recommend that for ANY hit of N2O.
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Im interested in spraying as well, probably in the Spring of 06'. but not going as big. maybe a Zex 100 wet shot. Can i work with stock fuel system and not be dangerously lean? Thanks!
Ron
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Im interested in spraying as well, probably in the Spring of 06'. but not going as big. maybe a Zex 100 wet shot. Can i work with stock fuel system and not be dangerously lean? Thanks!
Ron
100rwhp wet system is easy.....yes the stock system will be enough. Most people here will recommend a FPSS, which is better than nothing. I think its worth the extra money to actually monitor your A/F with either a wideband or at least an narrow band A/F gauge on your stock sensors.
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I've innstalled more then a dozen kits on LS-1's pilled up to 175 (wet) with absolutly nooo problems. Yes, you need plugs, and a little tuning would help as well... Just do it, you'll love the gas. Plus it's way cheaper then BOOST!!!!
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Originally Posted by 98TADRIVER
Im interested in spraying as well, probably in the Spring of 06'. but not going as big. maybe a Zex 100 wet shot. Can i work with stock fuel system and not be dangerously lean? Thanks!
Ron
I ran a Zex system all summer. Started at a 75 wet...lasted a couple of pulls before I was inquiring about the max shot wet before fuel pump, injectors and tune. I did go to TR6 plugs. I grew out of the Zex kit eventhough I was jetted to 150 hp shot. The Zex is measured at the flywheel NOT the rear wheels. In my searching this forum and my "real world experience" with wet systems, I quickly learned that I would not be happy with out a system that was well received by many, The NX MAF system was my choice for 2006. In the middle of swapping from Zex to NX, I decided to do a head-cam swap that turned into a new motor. Several of my friends run various 100-150 shot wet systems w/o new fuel pumps and injectors. One thing my mechanic noticed was an increasing amount of oil smoke at the end of a race...after seeing my pistons with 65,000 miles driving and monthly summertime racing, we guess that extra pressure was tough on the stock rings. Anyway - you'll have fun!!
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You can do it. Just have all the safety devices.
I ran a 150 shot for two years with no problems.
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Are these 175 rwhp shots or flywheel? Also, Ed, were you rwhp or flywheel?

Originally Posted by charlie c5
I've innstalled more then a dozen kits on LS-1's pilled up to 175 (wet) with absolutly nooo problems. Yes, you need plugs, and a little tuning would help as well... Just do it, you'll love the gas. Plus it's way cheaper then BOOST!!!!
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i know that Trmin8r dose a 200 shot with the basic bolt on's and cam. i want to do something like that maybe 250 shot??? lol
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150 Wet - 40,000 miles on the spray... Just fine.
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70stang - 150rwhp?
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I ran a 150 wet shot, on a cammin, stock motor. Had no problems
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Originally Posted by TexasWS6
70stang - 150rwhp?

Yeah, NX Wet kit...


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