am i an idiot for going N20???
06-05-2006, 11:39 AM
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am i an idiot for going N20??? im really interested in getting a 100-150 wet shot dynotune kit... but my car has 133k miles.... and has piston slap @ cold startup, but runs good otherwise... would nitrous be a mistake?
prolly a stupid question... lol
prolly a stupid question... lol
06-05-2006, 12:44 PM
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On one hand you run better than ever before, the other hand you have a good reason to upgrade to a new Iron Block 408 w/ no piston slap or cold satrt issue.. Yes your an idiot, enjoy it.
06-05-2006, 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by CAT3
On one hand you run better than ever before, the other hand you have a good reason to upgrade to a new Iron Block 408 w/ no piston slap or cold satrt issue.. Yes your an idiot, enjoy it.
i cant afford that... so i guess im stay n/a
06-05-2006, 07:46 PM
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You can run nitrous, but I want to make certain you understand the potential is there for needing a new shortblock. Some ppl dont care, some think everyone should be able to pay if they play...I would rather warn you up front. Now, with that typed, you can run a smaller shot, very conservative on tune, and be "safe". How safe is nitrous...some ppl will be able to run a 250shot on a stock bottom with no issues, some will blow the engine apart on a little 100shot. Making sure the engine is sound is first, safety equipment is second, tuning is ALWAYS.
06-05-2006, 10:21 PM
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Run it with all safety devices. Cold plugs, WOT switch, window switch, Fuel pressure switch. It should be fine if the engine is in good condition already.
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Originally Posted by treysoucie
i cant afford that... so i guess im stay n/a
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06-06-2006, 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by CAT3
What does a 408 IB have to do with Nitrous? Other than if built for sauce they mos.def. put some hurting on the track 
Originally Posted by CAT3
the other hand you have a good reason to upgrade to a new Iron Block 408 w/ no piston slap or cold satrt issue.. Yes your an idiot, enjoy it.
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06-06-2006, 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by CAT3
You can run nitrous, but I want to make certain you understand the potential is there for needing a new shortblock. Some ppl dont care, some think everyone should be able to pay if they play...I would rather warn you up front. Now, with that typed, you can run a smaller shot, very conservative on tune, and be "safe". How safe is nitrous...some ppl will be able to run a 250shot on a stock bottom with no issues, some will blow the engine apart on a little 100shot. Making sure the engine is sound is first, safety equipment is second, tuning is ALWAYS.
and what do you know??
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06-06-2006, 09:13 AM
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the facts are if you run any motor hard, they USUALLY dont live as long.
if you're nitrous smart, and you actually stay that way, you wont noticeably shorten the lifespan of your motor compared to you beating it just as much NA... just as much at that same powerlevel.... what im saying is the nitrous itself may not kill it, but using any motor in a drag racing environment on a regular basis does shorten its lifespan.
now, over time most people become complacent in their nitrous usage.. and eventually it bites them in the ***. if you treat it with a healthy respect, understand it, and apply what you know... then you're fine...
...but you do have to understand that one bonehead mistake can cost your motor. while you may do your best to minimize that risk, it is always there. its no different then owning a handgun, working with explosives, or even filling up the gas in your car. there is a constant inherent danger in working with it, however it can be minimized to reasonable risk, if the proper precautions are taken.
the true problem is human nature itself... after 6 months of hitting that bottle everyday, you might not be as careful as you were when you first bought it.
thats the closest to a straight answer i can give you.
if you're nitrous smart, and you actually stay that way, you wont noticeably shorten the lifespan of your motor compared to you beating it just as much NA... just as much at that same powerlevel.... what im saying is the nitrous itself may not kill it, but using any motor in a drag racing environment on a regular basis does shorten its lifespan.
now, over time most people become complacent in their nitrous usage.. and eventually it bites them in the ***. if you treat it with a healthy respect, understand it, and apply what you know... then you're fine...
...but you do have to understand that one bonehead mistake can cost your motor. while you may do your best to minimize that risk, it is always there. its no different then owning a handgun, working with explosives, or even filling up the gas in your car. there is a constant inherent danger in working with it, however it can be minimized to reasonable risk, if the proper precautions are taken.
the true problem is human nature itself... after 6 months of hitting that bottle everyday, you might not be as careful as you were when you first bought it.
thats the closest to a straight answer i can give you.
06-06-2006, 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by MrDude_1
the facts are if you run any motor hard, they USUALLY dont live as long.
if you're nitrous smart, and you actually stay that way, you wont noticeably shorten the lifespan of your motor compared to you beating it just as much NA... just as much at that same powerlevel.... what im saying is the nitrous itself may not kill it, but using any motor in a drag racing environment on a regular basis does shorten its lifespan.
now, over time most people become complacent in their nitrous usage.. and eventually it bites them in the ***. if you treat it with a healthy respect, understand it, and apply what you know... then you're fine...
...but you do have to understand that one bonehead mistake can cost your motor. while you may do your best to minimize that risk, it is always there. its no different then owning a handgun, working with explosives, or even filling up the gas in your car. there is a constant inherent danger in working with it, however it can be minimized to reasonable risk, if the proper precautions are taken.
the true problem is human nature itself... after 6 months of hitting that bottle everyday, you might not be as careful as you were when you first bought it.
thats the closest to a straight answer i can give you.
if you're nitrous smart, and you actually stay that way, you wont noticeably shorten the lifespan of your motor compared to you beating it just as much NA... just as much at that same powerlevel.... what im saying is the nitrous itself may not kill it, but using any motor in a drag racing environment on a regular basis does shorten its lifespan.
now, over time most people become complacent in their nitrous usage.. and eventually it bites them in the ***. if you treat it with a healthy respect, understand it, and apply what you know... then you're fine...
...but you do have to understand that one bonehead mistake can cost your motor. while you may do your best to minimize that risk, it is always there. its no different then owning a handgun, working with explosives, or even filling up the gas in your car. there is a constant inherent danger in working with it, however it can be minimized to reasonable risk, if the proper precautions are taken.
the true problem is human nature itself... after 6 months of hitting that bottle everyday, you might not be as careful as you were when you first bought it.
thats the closest to a straight answer i can give you.
preciate it...
i dont think i really needed to make this thread...
all of its seems common sense.
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06-06-2006, 12:14 PM
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trey, although common sense, some ppl will look around that aspect and go right for the 200 shot on stock block with no tuning! I like the idea of hitting the bottle like jr high kid, then working your way into high school, and eventually when the liver lets go replacing it with a big bad *** one. So get yourself a lil 50/75/100 shot and work your way up Come on you know you wanna.....
Come on you know you wanna.....
06-06-2006, 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by CAT3
trey, although common sense, some ppl will look around that aspect and go right for the 200 shot on stock block with no tuning! I like the idea of hitting the bottle like jr high kid, then working your way into high school, and eventually when the liver lets go replacing it with a big bad *** one. So get yourself a lil 50/75/100 shot and work your way up Come on you know you wanna.....
Come on you know you wanna.....ya, i know...
maybe a lil wet 75 shot courtesy of dynotune...
06-06-2006, 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by treysoucie
ya, i know...
maybe a lil wet 75 shot courtesy of dynotune...
maybe a lil wet 75 shot courtesy of dynotune...
06-06-2006, 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by brad8266
No matter what sixe shot or what kit you get, you MUST, and i cant stress this more, install colder plugs (NGK TR6 .038-.035 gap) before spraying. I have seen quite a few threads recently with nitrous damaged engines due to them not feeling like taking the time to swap plugs and they wound up getting major engine damage.
that never crossed my mind...
thanks, i coulda f'd some **** up....
thanks,
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No problem. I try as i can to keep people from believing the myth about nitrous being so dangerous for an engine. As long as all nitrous supporting mods are done it is all good.