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Old 03-15-2005, 02:29 PM   #1
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TEA 5.3 heads and Futral F13 cam.

Now the question is if Ellis will want to install them along with the QTP headers, catte Y-pipe and UD pulley....

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Sweet!! You will love the F13. I have the F11 and it makes great power and sounds awesome! Did you get it on a 114 or 112 LSA?
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I haven't gotten it yet, but I am leaning towards 112 +4 -- it al depends on if it works ok with the 5.3s -- I'm still waiting for an email from TEA about this, but that's the combo for sure.
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Are you going to have to clearance the pistons for that cam with those heads?
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Are those similar to these? I am looking at them for possible puttin on my baby........

AAP Stage II 5.3L heads, milled .030 for 11.1:1 compression on stock 346cid

fresh Erson single valve springs (less than 5k miles)
(springs were fine for 222/224 .571"/.571" 114LSA cam)
2.02/1.60 Manley valves
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Don Lee Auto went over them about 6 months ago.

With the cam above these heads made 410rwhp/415rwtq through an LS1 intake and cats, with an unlocked Y3000 and 3.73's. Dyno on my website.


Any opinions/suggestions? Still has the factory cam "for now"
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According to TEA no clearance issues at all. My understanding is that TEA starts with the 5.3 because it is cast with a smaller combustion chamber (61cc) than the LS6 or LQ9 heads, so they can machine the chambers without making them too big.

The heads are ported but not milled (it's an option), and according to other people that have this combo it can get easily to 450rwhp after a good tune.
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are the heads milled and whats the lift on that cam?
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The heads are ported but not milled (it's an option), and according to other people that have this combo it can get easily to 450rwhp after a good tune.
F13 = 230"/232" .595"/.585" 112LSA

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F13 = 230"/230" .595"/.595" 114LSA
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According to TEA no clearance issues at all. My understanding is that TEA starts with the 5.3 because it is cast with a smaller combustion chamber (61cc) than the LS6 or LQ9 heads, so they can machine the chambers without making them too big.

The heads are ported but not milled (it's an option), and according to other people that have this combo it can get easily to 450rwhp after a good tune.

Sounds awesome! 450 rwhp, nice.
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hope you have good luck, as you can see my heads/cam package was ****. Absolute garbage
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Cool.

I just ordered some TEA Stage 3 LQ9 (6.0L) heads from Brent for the 388.

With all the companies having one issue or another with heads, it came down to some AFR 225s or TEA heads. Few others have the spotless reputation I need.

Im sure you will be very happy with the results. The TEA stage 1.5 make some crazy flow for such low a price. The stage 2s dont seem to flow any more :-/
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TEA 5.3 heads and Futral F13 cam.

Now the question is if Ellis will want to install them along with the QTP headers, catte Y-pipe and UD pulley....

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That should turn out alot like my combo. althouth my valves are bigger on the intake, and the chamber is smalller, are they hand finsihed or just cnc'd? I think i would have gone with mybee something with a little less lift for the street, give you more on the bottom end, but that should make great power up in the revs. What kind of gears you running out back?
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You know I will install them as long as they are not cut I will still be checking Piston to valve clearance. No need to play the MTI game Boyce did and take a chance!

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Look at these flow numbers at several lifts - these heads FLOW.

LS1 5.3 Stage 1.5
Lift---------Intake--------Exhaust
.100---------71.1----------56.4
.200--------141.4----------117.9
.300---------203.5---------170.2
.400---------248.6---------233.7
.500---------282.9---------260.5
.550---------295.9---------265.9
.600---------305.7---------269.5


The Futral F13 cams should fit like a glove (not sure about duration)

F13 = 230"/232" .595"/.585" 112LSA
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F13 = 230"/230" .595"/.595" 114LSA

Add to this QTPs, ASP pulley, GMMG, Volant CAI and Shaner S3

....a tune.....

and start saving for a stock pile of new tires.
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Those flow pretty goodl. Just to put it in pespective my heads flow bout 25-30cfm more all the way 650 lift. Why don't you get a set of ls6 heads, and then just have the weld the chambers to whatever sive you want. The ls6 heads will way ouflow and perform the 5.3's. IMO
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Those flow pretty goodl. Just to put it in pespective my heads flow bout 25-30cfm more all the way 650 lift. Why don't you get a set of ls6 heads, and then just have the weld the chambers to whatever sive you want. The ls6 heads will way ouflow and perform the 5.3's. IMO
LS6 heads almost double the price of the TEA Stage 1.5 5.3s. You have to go to Stage 2 for the LS6, I believe.

I got lucky with mine because I need a 70cc chamber. LQ9s are LS6 heads with a big chamber and a tiny price. I would not have bought mine if they were only LS6s. Im a po' white chil'.
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for S's and G's, here's the stage 3 6.0 flow numbers. On a 4.125" bore, they are about 15-20 higher.

6.0L Stage 3
Lift Intake Exhaust
0.100 70.6 50.4
0.200 143.1 118.2
0.300 210.9 186.7
0.400 261.1 230.7
0.500 302.9 260.1
0.550 319.0 269.4
0.600 334.0 277.1
0.700 342.9 282.2

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for S's and G's, here's the stage 3 6.0 flow numbers. On a 4.125" bore, they are about 15-20 higher.

6.0L Stage 3
Lift Intake Exhaust
0.100 70.6 50.4
0.200 143.1 118.2
0.300 210.9 186.7
0.400 261.1 230.7
0.500 302.9 260.1
0.550 319.0 269.4
0.600 334.0 277.1
0.700 342.9 282.2


Good thing they flow to .700 cause evryone runs cams that big.

Those are nice flow numbers, but i got a little higher than that, and my heads probely cost less than half of what you will pay for those!
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and start saving for a stock pile of new tires.
And a 12 bolt.
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Good thing they flow to .700 cause evryone runs cams that big.

Those are nice flow numbers, but i got a little higher than that, and my heads probely cost less than half of what you will pay for those!
Less than $1k core included???

Brent at TEA is feeling generous these days. He has AFRs to compete with.

Mine came out significantly cheaper than un-ported AFR 225s... which was the competition.
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