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Old 12-21-2014, 09:00 PM
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I picked up my new spare work car. Clean car for how old she is. It's a 1990 Geo Prizm. Brown in color. From a distance the paint looks great but the closer you get to the car the more you can see where someone tried to do a wax job and it didn't remove the wax properly. I can see wax here and there in white patches. Looks like it's been sitting for a while on the paint. I tried to use some dawn soap today. I didn't really make any progress. Anybody have any ideas or advice? Thanks
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Sounds like this car needs at least a 2 step paint correction via a dual action polisher. I bet the spider webbing and marring in the paint is really bad. Only way to fix that is through a detailed paint correction. You can refer to this thread I made for better details on how to go about doing it, and what the end product will look like.

https://ls1tech.com/forums/appearanc...orrection.html
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are you sure it's wax?

sounds more like it's failing clearcoat to me
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post some pics
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Could be wax. In 1994 my black TA got that same look from me over applying the wax over a several applications. And I couldn't get that stuff off with my limited tools/knowledge. I took it to a few dealers and they all said it was acid rain damage where the paint needed to be redone. I took it to a detailer as a last resort. They knew immediately what the problem was. For $125 he removed all the old wax and fully detailed the car inside and out, engine bay and trunk included. Made the car look new again....$125. Beat the cost of new paint.
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Originally Posted by Firebrian
Could be wax. In 1994 my black TA got that same look from me over applying the wax over a several applications. And I couldn't get that stuff off with my limited tools/knowledge. I took it to a few dealers and they all said it was acid rain damage where the paint needed to be redone. I took it to a detailer as a last resort. They knew immediately what the problem was. For $125 he removed all the old wax and fully detailed the car inside and out, engine bay and trunk included. Made the car look new again....$125. Beat the cost of new paint.
God damn, I do that for $80.00. Guess I need to up my prices. ****, I did that two stage paint correction on my friends Dodge Cummins dually (above link) for $180.00.
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God damn, I do that for $80.00. Guess I need to up my prices. ****, I did that two stage paint correction on my friends Dodge Cummins dually (above link) for $180.00.

You are too cheap, at my store I would charge $150 for what he did.
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You are too cheap, at my store I would charge $150 for what he did.
Yeah, I'm going to increase my prices for sure. I enjoy doing it and the money I make goes right back into the WS6.
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Originally Posted by Rise of the Phoenix
God damn, I do that for $80.00. Guess I need to up my prices. ****, I did that two stage paint correction on my friends Dodge Cummins dually (above link) for $180.00.
I usually charge $175 for cars for a two stage, buddies I give discounts to because it is a side job out of my garage and like you I enjoy paint correction
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Would post pics but it's more to it than copy and paste. I'm sure iit's not the clearcoat cause it doest have any peeling spots at all. Car is brown but it looks cloudy when you get right up on it but from 10-20 feet away you can't notice it. Why I think it's wax is because it's not all over. Look like someone tried waxing the car and didn't remove the wax in certain sppts. It's glossy brown on the trunk/ quarter panel but have cloudy whitish swirls marks on the hood and doors.
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Originally Posted by Tuskyz28
Would post pics but it's more to it than copy and paste. I'm sure iit's not the clearcoat cause it doest have any peeling spots at all. Car is brown but it looks cloudy when you get right up on it but from 10-20 feet away you can't notice it. Why I think it's wax is because it's not all over. Look like someone tried waxing the car and didn't remove the wax in certain sppts. It's glossy brown on the trunk/ quarter panel but have cloudy whitish swirls marks on the hood and doors.
They need to make posting pics easier..........like telepathic pasted pics would be nice.
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Originally Posted by Chucklee
They need to make posting pics easier..........like telepathic pasted pics would be nice.
I totally agree. Wish I could copy and paste and be done with it. I'll love to show my Z28 to the world ;-)
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Originally Posted by Rise of the Phoenix
God damn, I do that for $80.00. Guess I need to up my prices. ****, I did that two stage paint correction on my friends Dodge Cummins dually (above link) for $180.00.
That guy spent more than half a day on my car. Probably 4-6 hours. It was time to sell it too so this set it up perfectly. I did very well on the sale. Could not have come close to what they did for $125. And 2 dealers wanted to do paint jobs for me for thousands more. That was $125 out of $14,000+.....money well spent. If someone could do that kind of job on my '99 SS today I'd gladly fork over $125 again. If you're in Connecticut please PM me.

Body and paint shops around here start at $400+ just to do any paint work to any single panel on a car. $180 to fix paint professionally around here? In my dreams.

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Sometimes, paint correction won't work. If the defects are past the clear-coat and into the paint, then the only way to fix that is with a re-paint. 9 times out of 10 the defects are in the clear and can be buffed out. Swirl marks, spider webbing, and marring are the most noticable. Some believe their paint is great, but after stripping the paint with Dawn and putting the clay bar to it, you get a clear picture of the true condition of the paint. I love bringing paint back to life. My buddy couldn't believe that was his truck when he saw it. I was able to remove every defect in the clear. Only things I weren't able to remove were the deep scratches on near the bed rails due to his belt buckle. Those were deep into the paint though.
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I got your e-mail OP with the pictures, so I've got them hosted for you.





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Originally Posted by Rise of the Phoenix
God damn, I do that for $80.00. Guess I need to up my prices. ****, I did that two stage paint correction on my friends Dodge Cummins dually (above link) for $180.00.
before you up the price wanna do a 66 Nova? lol im only about an hour from you
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Thanks phonix, you can see it really good under the door handle. It was raining when I took the photos.
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Originally Posted by s-350

before you up the price wanna do a 66 Nova? lol im only about an hour from you
Sure. Come Spring I'm game.
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They do need to make it easier to post pics. I still cat post them big.. not that I've absolutely tried... here's a pic if your z28 I'll post for you
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