01Z28M6

I'm wanting advice and direction as the title says.

As for wiring, do I just connect the LM-1 analog #2 (white) wire to the FlashScan V1 A1 (AD1) input? Any grounding needed?

And for the EFILive PIDs I've included these two:

Is there anything else I need?

What should I expect to see in the EFILive Scan Data - just a 0 - 5 voltage?
Can this be tied into a Dashboard gauge? If so, what gauge would that be?

SSpdDmon

iTrader: (10)

Open the scanner and hit F1. In my version of the help file, the answer is on pg 108. See pic below.

As for the PIDs, there should also be a calc AFR for the default LM1 settings. If you decide to change the voltage vs AFR spread with the Innovate software, you'll need to create a custom PID to support it.

Personally, I like to use:

11:1 = 0v
16:1 = 5v

I changed the sae_generic.txt file (which is really a no-no ) so I didn't have to create a custom PID. Easiest way to find this file is to hit the start button and search all files/folders on your computer. You can do this like I did, but it will not carry over if you re-install or upgrade the software. All that means to me is, you need to make the change again. Anyway...to get the above settings to work, I found the LM1 section of the text file (Ctrl F is your friend) and changed it to say:

# Innovate LM-1 WBO2
# ========================
*CLC-00-928
V_____________0.0___________5.0___________.1 "{EXT.AD1}"
AFR___________10.0___________30.0___________.1 "{EXT.AD1}+11"
*CLC-00-929
factor___________0.0___________2.0___________.1 "{CALC.AFR_LM11.AFR}/{GM.AFR}"
*CLC-00-930
V_____________0.0___________5.0___________.1 "{EXT.AD2}"
AFR___________10.0___________30.0___________.1 "{EXT.AD2}+11"
*CLC-00-931
factor___________0.0___________2.0___________.1 "{CALC.AFR_LM12.AFR}/{GM.AFR}"



It's probably wise to create a copy of the sae_generic.txt file and save it in a safe place "just incase."

01Z28M6

SSpdDmn, I used the resident PIDs designed for my LM-1. It all seemed to work as the WB data seems to be correct in the log.

I couldn't find the sae_generic.txt file. I wonder if it was not included in my version or that perhaps you have acquired it post installation??

Anyway, thanks for your help here and for other things. Please watch for my post about spiking at full throttle.

shoemike

iTrader: (25)

The sae_generic.txt is located in:
C:\Program Files\EFILive\V7.5\Configuration
The software will not open without it or if it is formatted improperly.

01Z28M6

You are very right and i do not understand why windows search missed it on 4 or 5 separate searches. I spelled it right and even used wild cards in case it wasn't a txt file. Oh well, thanks for pointing to it.

Do I still need to edit it? Never mind on that. I see now that SSpdDmn changed the params in order to alter the voltage spread.

Is there any chance those changes will help the huge WOT lean spikes showing in the LM-1 data log?

SSpdDmon

iTrader: (10)

Chances are, they are true lean spikes. Are they just during tip-in or are they showing after you've been in it for a second or two?

01Z28M6

They appear exactly as the RPM begins to drop - closing the throttle...

Can you tell what those changes to the sae_generic.txt file actually do. I've added the changes and saved the original - thanks.

Here's a picture of the spiking. RPM in black, AFR in orchid. Please tell me what you think. No spark knock btw.

If you would like me to send you the data log, I would surely want to send it.

SSpdDmon

iTrader: (10)

Those spikes look like DFCO (decel fuel cutoff).

The change to the txt file is for better resolution. 1v = 1 AFR vs the default where 1 AFR = a fraction of a volt.

01Z28M6

# Innovate LM-1 WBO2
# ========================
*CLC-00-928
V 0.0 5.0 .1 "{EXT.AD1}"
AFR 10.0 30.0 .2 "{EXT.AD1}*10"
*CLC-00-929
factor 0.0 2.0 .2 "{CALC.AFR_LM11.AFR}/{GM.AFR}"
*CLC-00-930
V 0.0 5.0 .1 "{EXT.AD2}"
AFR 10.0 30.0 .2 "{EXT.AD2}*10"
*CLC-00-931
factor 0.0 2.0 .2 "{CALC.AFR_LM12.AFR}/{GM.AFR}"

I see that you changed all the *10 to *11 and some of the .2 to all .1

I know that I'm really going to appear ignorant but what does the changes do?

SSpdDmon

iTrader: (10)

From "times 10" to "plus 11", yes...this means that when I changed my LM1, I said let 11:1 represent 0v and 16:1, 5v. So if voltage is 3, then AFR is 14. The default (looking at what you posted) is only a spread of 1v, where 10:1 is 1v and 20:1 is 2v. Having a wider range of voltage output allows for more definition per AFR (in my opinion). With the default, the voltage read by the scanning software has to be accurate to the hundreth or thousandth. With mine, accuracy to the tenth is all that's necessary.

As for the .2 to .1, that's just how many decimal places you want AFR to appear to have in the scanner. I'm good with just 1 instead of 2.

01Z28M6

Incredible! Where did you learn all of this?? I am so far behind, I don't even even know where to start to pick this stuff up...

Anyway, what I did was to change the sae_generic.txt file WITHOUT re-programming the LM-1. You can guess what kind of data I ended up collecting. I'm going to save and go over these things and try to grasp the concepts. Thanks for taking the time to explain!

SSpdDmon

iTrader: (10)

You just have to take your time and think your way through it. Test the formulas before you use them and ask yourself, "Does this make sense?" The rest will work itself out. That and read up on a lot of posts for about 4 years.

01Z28M6

I guess it's obvious but is pretty much everything I need to know in the documentation? Is that primarily where you're getting all of this? If so, I'm going to print the thing out and keep a copy in my library....

Even the F1 help while in the application was new to me. sheesh!

SSpdDmon

iTrader: (10)

In documentation, in online posts, in talking with other tuners, in thinking for myself...

In time, grasshopper.