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Old 06-20-2012, 07:50 PM
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I have a mailorder tune.
Is there a way I can verify with AutoTap, how accurate the air/fuel tables have been set?
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You really need a wideband (lets you compare measured AFR against commanded AFR).
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Thanks, Joe.
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yep wideband is the first thing to buy if you want to tune a efi engine, followed by tuning software lol.. for 200 bucks it amazes me how many people wont buy one.
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During closed loop you could look at the LTFT's, these will be close to zero if the MAF (steady state airflow conditions) and the VE (transient conditions) are correct.

But, anything outside of closed loop a wideband is required (e.g. at WOT you can't rely on HO2Sx1 voltages being above some value since these are not "calibrated" to provide voltage:AFR conversion; some people are lucky and get away with this, but it is a bad idea).
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Originally Posted by joecar
During closed loop you could look at the LTFT's, these will be close to zero if the MAF (steady state airflow conditions) and the VE (transient conditions) are correct.

But, anything outside of closed loop a wideband is required (e.g. at WOT you can't rely on HO2Sx1 voltages being above some value since these are not "calibrated" to provide voltage:AFR conversion; some people are lucky and get away with this, but it is a bad idea).
Joe,
^^^LTFT's is the theme I was looking for....just a way to verify closed loop enrichment. There are a couple of issues happening. First one is overly rich @ idle, and maybe rich off idle. I have P0154 bank2 -1. Then, an idle motor stuck on zero.
Once the bugs are worked out, the car will be dyno-tuned.
Thanks!
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Glenn, you see where this is going... (you're heading towards learning how to DIY tuning)

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Originally Posted by joecar
Glenn, you see where this is going... (you're heading towards learning how to DIY tuning)

Yes, sir!
I hope to ascend to the rarified air of the LS1 kingdom!
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lol, it's not rarified anymore, there are too many people doing it, it has become a must for the DIY/carguy.
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Originally Posted by gMAG
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Then, an idle motor stuck on zero.
IAC going to zero usually means unmetered airflow from a vacuum leak, or somebody screwed with the TB and it's letting in too much air at idle.
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this seems like the next thing i keep running into that i need to buy.... ug.




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