importkiller_SS

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I am having mixed ideas about how to start off an E85 tune. I have succesfully ran E85 before on a vehicle with taking 30% out of injector flow rate vs KPA and leaving stoich at 14.7 for everything.

I am targeting 12-12.3 afr for PE on the gas scale which is about .81-.83 lambda

was wondering if someone can critique my setup and let me know about how you sucessfully ran E85 if possible.

Thanks in advanced!

Info about my setup:

rebuilt forged 347 LS1 with PRC stg 2.5 heads (62cc), 268/270 at .050" .657" lift, 108LSA, Fast 102 manifold and TB, 60lb motoron inj.
Running a Haltech 103R using a LS7 style MAF.
In a 2002 camaro M6

98Camarod

iTrader: (43)

recommend not doing what you plan on doing.

change your stoich and modify your ve. e85 uses about 30% MORE fuel, not less.

I copied this from another forum, the "red" I left out so the values listed are usable:

stay out of the RED.

Lambda E85 AFR Gas AFR
0.700 6.832 10.290
0.710 6.930 10.437
0.720 7.027 10.584
0.730 7.125 10.731 @ Max Power Multi Turbo
0.740 7.222 10.878
0.750 7.320 11.025 @ Supercharged/Turbo
0.760 7.418 11.172
0.770 7.515 11.319 @ Max Power NA
0.780 7.613 11.466
0.790 7.710 11.613
0.800 7.808 11.760 @ Consistant Race
0.810 7.906 11.907
0.820 8.003 12.054
0.830 8.101 12.201
0.840 8.198 12.348 @ Part throttle RACE
0.850 8.296 12.495
0.860 8.394 12.642
0.870 8.491 12.789 @ Idle
0.880 8.589 12.936
0.890 8.686 13.083
0.900 8.784 13.230
0.910 8.882 13.377 @ Part throttle STREET (economy)
0.920 8.979 13.524
0.930 9.077 13.671

joecar

By reducing his IFR by 30% he is adding 30% more fuel... (can you see why...?)

But he could simply do this: leave the IFR alone, set stoich to 9.76, and then adjust PE as necessary to achieve 0.81-0.83 lambda.

importkiller_SS

iTrader: (35)

I didnt think it was that simple by just changing stoich and PE. Suppose its worth a try. I have the car idleing but it wont rev up or drive to well...

Thanks for all the Values 98Camarod

importkiller_SS

iTrader: (35)

timing overall look ok to everyone?

Thanks

Rhino79

iTrader: (7)

I made best power with +4 timing over my 93 octane tune.

LIL SS

iTrader: (9)

I tried shortcutting it and not changing the Stoich table by adjusting VE since I am 1 bar SD. I could not get it to idle for my life, but part throttle and WOT were fine.

I then went to a basic stock tune with my 1 bar SD, changed Stoich and PE, redid the VE table before going WOT.. Man, what a difference. Runs like a champ!!

I can run 91, E48, and E85 with just a simple Stoich/PE change (and timing for 91, 13-1cr/8.7dcr).

importkiller_SS

iTrader: (35)

Thanks for the input. sounds convincing enough to take that approach.