PCM Diagnostics & Tuning HP Tuners | Holley | Diablo
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Using MAP to determine intake restriction

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 04-19-2015, 11:47 PM
  #1  
TECH Senior Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (39)
 
LilJayV10's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Evansville,IN
Posts: 9,301
Received 857 Likes on 610 Posts

Default Using MAP to determine intake restriction

I've always heard about people using the MAP at WOT to determine if the intake is a restriction.

I've read about people comparing a stock LS1 intake to a FAST but never understood what to look for.

Thanks for any help.

J
Old 04-20-2015, 10:14 PM
  #2  
TECH Regular
 
eaglegoat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: SV, AZ
Posts: 414
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

Manifold_vacuum
Old 04-21-2015, 11:01 AM
  #3  
11 Second Club
iTrader: (11)
 
Pharcyde50's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: St. Petersburg, FL
Posts: 574
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

Compare your MAP koeo to your MAP at WOT. If it decreases more than 10 Kpa I would say you have some restriction. Min is like 102kpa koeo and like 99 at WOT with a ported fast 102 and 102mm tb and 4" tubing to lid no maf.
Old 04-21-2015, 12:46 PM
  #4  
Launching!
iTrader: (1)
 
1 Slow WS6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Virginia Beach
Posts: 260
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

MAP sensors read in KPA and KPA is a measure of pressure. At sea level 101 KPA is the atmospheric pressure and varies with altitude. I'm going to use sea level as the example here. Anything under 101 KPA is a vacuum. At wide open throttle you want to be as close to 101 KPA (NA motor) as you can because anything under that would represent a restriction on the intake side. You can read this through a scanner like HP tuners you just log a run and check the histogram to see what your max KPA is at WOT. So a fast is just a bigger hole with less restriction compared to a stock intake.
Old 04-21-2015, 06:40 PM
  #5  
TECH Senior Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (39)
 
LilJayV10's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Evansville,IN
Posts: 9,301
Received 857 Likes on 610 Posts

Default

Thanks for the replies everyone. I will have the car back on the dyno at work later this week, I'm interested in what my readings are.
Old 04-21-2015, 07:02 PM
  #6  
Moderator
iTrader: (11)
 
jimmyblue's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: East Central Florida
Posts: 12,605
Likes: 0
Received 6 Likes on 6 Posts

Default

On my Vortec van with a screened 75mm MAF, MAP drops
from 100kPa at 2000RPM WOT to 95kPa at 5000RPM. That
is 5% left on the table.

The Camaro with descreened 85mm and 85mm intake,
goes from 100kPa to 98kPa at 6500RPM despite also
having a better cam & exhaust & intake & higher max
RPM (pulling down harder against the inlet tract).

The next question after "how much?" is "which piece
or pieces?". You could have yourself some fun with
a few MAP sensors and log various points along the
way simultaneously, or you could make yourself a
cheap manometer out of Tygon tubing and water
(as I did for my ancient flow/pressure drop posting).
Of course either one of those would require you to
poke holes in stuff.
Old 04-21-2015, 07:27 PM
  #7  
TECH Senior Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (39)
 
LilJayV10's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Evansville,IN
Posts: 9,301
Received 857 Likes on 610 Posts

Default

You said man o meter, haha



Quick Reply: Using MAP to determine intake restriction



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:14 PM.