NEWS FLASH: US Gov allows tinkering with your car's software
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NEWS FLASH: US Gov allows tinkering with your car's software
For anyone in the business of tuning cars, selling tuning software and anyone who wants to keep "tuning" late model cars can rejoice because the US Government granted today a DMCA exemption legalizing vehicle software tinkering.
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2...are-tinkering/
Without this exemption, it would be illegal to reverse engineering, modify or even examine any automotive computer/software that had any type of encryption or "copy protection", no matter how easily defeated.
While this doesn't apply to our "411" PCMs, it might already apply to late model ECMs, Entertainment systems, etc running on the CAN bus. I've read that manufacturers are planning on encrypting their signals on the CAN bus, if they haven't already.
The auto manufacturers and the EPA fought again the exemption (they wanted it to be illegal to poke around), but the US regulators thought otherwise.
Everyone thinks a big reason for their decision was the VW deceit where the software was explicitly designed to defeat EPA testing.
So, lets all raise a glass to VW for letting us legally tinker with our future cars.
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2...are-tinkering/
Without this exemption, it would be illegal to reverse engineering, modify or even examine any automotive computer/software that had any type of encryption or "copy protection", no matter how easily defeated.
While this doesn't apply to our "411" PCMs, it might already apply to late model ECMs, Entertainment systems, etc running on the CAN bus. I've read that manufacturers are planning on encrypting their signals on the CAN bus, if they haven't already.
The auto manufacturers and the EPA fought again the exemption (they wanted it to be illegal to poke around), but the US regulators thought otherwise.
Everyone thinks a big reason for their decision was the VW deceit where the software was explicitly designed to defeat EPA testing.
So, lets all raise a glass to VW for letting us legally tinker with our future cars.
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Whoever made that decision is either clueless to what is really going on in the aftermarket, they think everything being done really is really being done for off road use only (which would go along with being clueless), or they know what is going on and is devising a way to catch and fine everyone for what is being done. I'm sure that decision has nothing to do with purposely altering the emissions output of vehicles. Guess I should add a Thanks Obama.
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We are such a small percentage of the overall population of vehicles on the road we don't make a rats *** of difference in grand scheme of things. The greater majority of any vehicle sold never has the oil changed much less hot rodded why they seek to zero in on those of us who do tinker sucks.
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That specifically says for "lawful use" so when you modify the computer to turn off emissions you are still breaking the law. Plus even though the government says it may be legal, I bet if you modify the tune in your car or truck and try and take it in under warranty, you are going to get the high hard one.
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For anyone in the business of tuning cars, selling tuning software and anyone who wants to keep "tuning" late model cars can rejoice because the US Government granted today a DMCA exemption legalizing vehicle software tinkering.
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2...are-tinkering/
Without this exemption, it would be illegal to reverse engineering, modify or even examine any automotive computer/software that had any type of encryption or "copy protection", no matter how easily defeated.
While this doesn't apply to our "411" PCMs, it might already apply to late model ECMs, Entertainment systems, etc running on the CAN bus. I've read that manufacturers are planning on encrypting their signals on the CAN bus, if they haven't already.
The auto manufacturers and the EPA fought again the exemption (they wanted it to be illegal to poke around), but the US regulators thought otherwise.
Everyone thinks a big reason for their decision was the VW deceit where the software was explicitly designed to defeat EPA testing.
So, lets all raise a glass to VW for letting us legally tinker with our future cars.
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2...are-tinkering/
Without this exemption, it would be illegal to reverse engineering, modify or even examine any automotive computer/software that had any type of encryption or "copy protection", no matter how easily defeated.
While this doesn't apply to our "411" PCMs, it might already apply to late model ECMs, Entertainment systems, etc running on the CAN bus. I've read that manufacturers are planning on encrypting their signals on the CAN bus, if they haven't already.
The auto manufacturers and the EPA fought again the exemption (they wanted it to be illegal to poke around), but the US regulators thought otherwise.
Everyone thinks a big reason for their decision was the VW deceit where the software was explicitly designed to defeat EPA testing.
So, lets all raise a glass to VW for letting us legally tinker with our future cars.
Also CAN bus encryption is down the line right now auto makers are just working on filtering CAN bus packets from sources similar to the way a firewall would work.
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Just for additional background to those who don't know much about DMCA, it was a law signed around 1998 due to lobbying by the music and film industries to protect them from on-line pirating via illegal download, e.g. Napster.
Somehow, other industries then decided to use the law for their own protection; a major example being cell phone carriers claiming that the "unlocking" your phone is illegal under DMCA. Then others claimed that reverse engineering their software was illegal under DMCA.
Each year (?) the Library of Congress can issue exceptions to the DMCA and this year they made automotive software an exception. Congress can also pass exceptions and last year it allowed for unlocking cell phones.
In short, this crappy law goes back to the late '90s fight between the music industry and Napster.
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Whoever made that decision is either clueless to what is really going on in the aftermarket, they think everything being done really is really being done for off road use only (which would go along with being clueless), or they know what is going on and is devising a way to catch and fine everyone for what is being done. I'm sure that decision has nothing to do with purposely altering the emissions output of vehicles. Guess I should add a Thanks Obama.
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