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Old 09-22-2004, 06:45 PM
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Anyone using a knock retard gauge? I really dont wanna drive around with a laptop. For you guys that are using one....are they accurate?
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I've never heard of such a thing. Since KR is something
derived by the PCM, how do you get a gauge to read
it?
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Whoever dreamed that up must be a knock RETARD. The PCM works so darn fast you would never see it appear.
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Originally Posted by Another_User
Whoever dreamed that up must be a knock RETARD.
There's a fine line between stupidity and marketing genius.

I'm still waiting for the New, Improved Pet Rock to come
around.
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Originally Posted by jimmyblue
There's a fine line between stupidity and marketing genius.

I'm still waiting for the New, Improved Pet Rock to come
around.
Perhaps if you bolt the pet rock onto your intake you will gain 20rwhp?
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Originally Posted by ThackerSS
Thacker, if you have nothing USEFUL to contribute... stay the f*** outta here please



I've never used a knock gauge but have seen people w/Grand Prix's using them... they aren't real useful for measuring the amount of knock... but they're light driven I believe... so if you're at WOT and you look over and see it lit up like a christmas tree.. you know you're getting alot of knock and know to get off the gas..

I don't think they're worth the money new... but if you can find a used one could be a decent investment if you don't want to have a scanner hooked to your car
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A scanmaster will show KR on the display in realtime right?
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Originally Posted by XLR8NSS
A scanmaster will show KR on the display in realtime right?
Correct
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By the time I look over at my HP Tuners display my knock retard is long gone. It's amazing how fast it appears and disappears, and how much of an impact KR can have on performance. It's better to just log it and view it later.
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My understanding of the knock sensors is, you need
to have the knock sensor filter chip (or whatever they
are using) all tweaked up to the engine's signature
acoustics, and have the blanking right, or it's just
a big false echo mess. So if this were a proper gauge
I think it would be very engine specific.
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I think that some of the guys at the track, the non computerized ones, are runnin knock sensors wired to a light just to let them know to back of before they turn their pistons into something that looks like a failed attempt at pottery. These guys don't have a PCM pulling timing (as little as it may be) for them. Haven't heard anything about how well they work though.
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you can get one on a grand national ( works well) ive had the same question if one will work on our cars?
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I use a ls1 scanmaster just so I don't have to drag the lap top around all the time.It works well as it recordes leanest o2 readings and how much kr if any when you go wot.
Kind of handy to verify gas quality and such .Also works nice at the track when set to coolant temp for a accurate gauge for consitent results.

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