LM-1 O2 replacement ... which to get? and where?
10-22-2004, 10:01 AM
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LM-1 O2 replacement ... which to get? and where? I'm getting some sporatic readings w/my LM1 ... pegging at 20:1 AFR, spikes etc...
So I wanna try a new O2 sensor (O2 has been in the car for about 8 months... but I usually don't have my LM-1 powered up so the heater is rarely on... I think it may be fugged up... or in need of a recal)
It comes w/a Bosch Wideband O2 sensor ... anyone know the part number of this? and is this something I could pick up at a NAPA?
Also I heard it can use a VW sensor? True? Part Number?
So I wanna try a new O2 sensor (O2 has been in the car for about 8 months... but I usually don't have my LM-1 powered up so the heater is rarely on... I think it may be fugged up... or in need of a recal)
It comes w/a Bosch Wideband O2 sensor ... anyone know the part number of this? and is this something I could pick up at a NAPA?
Also I heard it can use a VW sensor? True? Part Number?
10-22-2004, 10:36 AM
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It does come on a VW, I am running a TechEdge 2B0 Setup and they recommended me order my sensor from here when I bought it.
Just do a search for the part number or application. They are a good supplier, I had mine in about a week.
1 1stVWParts.com VW part 021-906-262-B (Parts.com or 1stVWparts.com) US$39.53 US$29.65 + shipping (info correct @ 11 June '04).
Here is some cross refs for it.
Bosch Part Number
Vehicle Part number extra info
0 258 007 033
Volvo 2000 C70, 2.3 L & 2.4 L turbo. Bosch USA #17033
0 258 007 036
Volvo 1999 S80 T6 (Front) Bosch USA #17036, (Info from Alex Neckas).
0 258 007 044
Porsche Carrera 911 GT3 part # 996-606-168-01
0 258 006 047
Volvo 1999 S70 2.4T. Volvo part 91 25 547 (possibly the same as Volvo part 94 54 597 used on first generation S80 2.4T and T5).
0 258 007 053,
0 258 007 054
VW 2000 Beetle 1.8 turbo. , Bosch USA #17053.
0 258 007 057,
0 258 007 058
VW1.8T and 2.8L VR6 Golf, Jetta and Turbo Beetle, VW part # 021-906-262-B, (AWW & AFP motors only) Bosch US part # 17014
0 258 006 065
GM Cadillac Catera. GM part number 919-8809. Saturn part number 24450850. Same part as the 0 258 006 066 below, but different cable length
0 258 006 066
Bosch LSU 4 sensor - sold by Tech Edge - AU$150
0 258 007 085,
0 258 007 086
VW 2.0 L
0 258 007 090
Audi 2001 - 2003 A4 1.8T (Front) and VW 2001 Passat 1.8T (Front) (Info from Alex Neckas).
Here is another link for cross referencing:
http://www.forparts.com/BoswidebandO2app.htm
Just do a search for the part number or application. They are a good supplier, I had mine in about a week.
1 1stVWParts.com VW part 021-906-262-B (Parts.com or 1stVWparts.com) US$39.53 US$29.65 + shipping (info correct @ 11 June '04).
Here is some cross refs for it.
Bosch Part Number
Vehicle Part number extra info
0 258 007 033
Volvo 2000 C70, 2.3 L & 2.4 L turbo. Bosch USA #17033
0 258 007 036
Volvo 1999 S80 T6 (Front) Bosch USA #17036, (Info from Alex Neckas).
0 258 007 044
Porsche Carrera 911 GT3 part # 996-606-168-01
0 258 006 047
Volvo 1999 S70 2.4T. Volvo part 91 25 547 (possibly the same as Volvo part 94 54 597 used on first generation S80 2.4T and T5).
0 258 007 053,
0 258 007 054
VW 2000 Beetle 1.8 turbo. , Bosch USA #17053.
0 258 007 057,
0 258 007 058
VW1.8T and 2.8L VR6 Golf, Jetta and Turbo Beetle, VW part # 021-906-262-B, (AWW & AFP motors only) Bosch US part # 17014
0 258 006 065
GM Cadillac Catera. GM part number 919-8809. Saturn part number 24450850. Same part as the 0 258 006 066 below, but different cable length
0 258 006 066
Bosch LSU 4 sensor - sold by Tech Edge - AU$150
0 258 007 085,
0 258 007 086
VW 2.0 L
0 258 007 090
Audi 2001 - 2003 A4 1.8T (Front) and VW 2001 Passat 1.8T (Front) (Info from Alex Neckas).
Here is another link for cross referencing:
http://www.forparts.com/BoswidebandO2app.htm
10-22-2004, 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by JS
U MUST run the heated o2 all the time if its in the exhaust.
U killed it....
U killed it....
Damn I didnt know that and I am running the NTK (169.00) chumpie
10-22-2004, 10:42 AM
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thanks for the info all 
I'll be ordering from that 1stVWParts place for a backup sensor... found a few dealers local that sell them for 51.05 so I'll buy one today so I have it for testing this weekend, then order a backup
Looks like it's time I wire up my LM-1 so it's always on w/ignition
I'll be ordering from that 1stVWParts place for a backup sensor... found a few dealers local that sell them for 51.05 so I'll buy one today so I have it for testing this weekend, then order a backup Looks like it's time I wire up my LM-1 so it's always on w/ignition
10-22-2004, 10:49 AM
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Just got off the phone w/Innovate to confirm everything and everything in here is 100% correct
the Bosch LSU4 sensor is what they use, and you should ALWAYS have the heater element on when the car is running or the O2 will fail prematurely
the Bosch LSU4 sensor is what they use, and you should ALWAYS have the heater element on when the car is running or the O2 will fail prematurely
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10-22-2004, 10:58 AM
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I just heat mine up before I start the car.Then I shut it off for a split sec and start the car and then restart the lm1,it reads like 75% at that point and this way I dont spike the unit with voltage.Seems okay this way,I always remember to turn it off.I'll be out tonight doing some tuning as I need to get her dialed in for the track.
A good 3rd gear pull to 6300 should do the trick
A good 3rd gear pull to 6300 should do the trick
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10-22-2004, 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by WS6snake-eater
Any idea how long it will last if left on all the time?
Well considering that the sensor comes as standard equipment in a lot of cars it typically has the standard lifetime of a regular O2 sensor around 50-60k miles. Obviously it can be damaged must faster if it get's contaminated with silicon or not having the engine running while it is installed.
10-22-2004, 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by JS
I just heat mine up before I start the car.Then I shut it off for a split sec and start the car and then restart the lm1,it reads like 75% at that point and this way I dont spike the unit with voltage.Seems okay this way,I always remember to turn it off.I'll be out tonight doing some tuning as I need to get her dialed in for the track.
A good 3rd gear pull to 6300 should do the trick
A good 3rd gear pull to 6300 should do the trick
Innovate recommends against that. Condensation from start-up on a hot sensor ins't good for it. They recommend at start up, or about 30secs after start-up.
12-01-2004, 01:42 PM
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In case anyone is looking for a decent deal....Here's where I bought my sensor from. Mine is part # 021906262B
https://www.1stvwparts.com/part_number.html
It is listed for $38.29 + shipping
https://www.1stvwparts.com/part_number.html
It is listed for $38.29 + shipping
12-02-2004, 09:10 PM
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After I adjusted my AFR with the LM-1... I removed the sensor. Is there any good reason to leave it in? I don't have time when running at the dragstrip to look at the handheld unit nor an AFR dial gauge.
Just wondering if I'm missing-out on something by not leaving it in all the time.
Just wondering if I'm missing-out on something by not leaving it in all the time.
12-03-2004, 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by HumpinSS
As long as its heated while you are driving then you should be fine
Im assuming that the dynojet wideband commander heats it automatically and theres nothing I have to do?
