smoothing ve table?
02-11-2005, 09:33 AM
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Yes, but you need to give the computer time to adjust to the new settings, be sure to reset the fuel trims. After about 30 minutes or so, you should start seeing more accurate data to base your new changes from. That is how I am doing it.
02-11-2005, 09:39 AM
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yeah, i really plan on getting about 3 or 4 logs in and change the VE table, then try and smooth, reset trims, go back out for some more logs and see what goes on. i just wanted to make sure i understood that function. this hp tuners is cool, just a lot of stuff to learn, right now im still at the beginning parts of tuning lol
02-11-2005, 09:40 AM
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I did this when I was fiddling mine and the big-cam car I
worked on. My opinion is that there should be no sharp
discontinuities, though the stock table looks pretty jerky
in spots. The flow, should flow, so to speak. In fact I hit
the smooth button a bunch of times until it looked all
pretty. Though I can't say whether it helped any, it just
seems unnatural to me that you'd have any spikes or
ridges or potholes in the surface.
worked on. My opinion is that there should be no sharp
discontinuities, though the stock table looks pretty jerky
in spots. The flow, should flow, so to speak. In fact I hit
the smooth button a bunch of times until it looked all
pretty. Though I can't say whether it helped any, it just
seems unnatural to me that you'd have any spikes or
ridges or potholes in the surface.
02-11-2005, 10:04 AM
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I am also against a smooth as a babies *** ve table. If you are tuning with a wb and dialing the car in for a specific AFR and adjust the ve table accordingly for what the motor needs, then go back and smooth it you will be tuning for ever. The only drawback i see to a spikey table is burst knock, once you tone down the burst knock parms you wont have to worry about it.
My ve table looks like **** comapred to some i have seen on the site
My ve table looks like **** comapred to some i have seen on the site
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02-11-2005, 10:45 AM
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Mine is pretty spikey too. There are way to many variables that effect the motors VE. Best thing you can do is get the trims in order and not smooth it. The spikes you are seeing represent the real life data your motor sees.
02-11-2005, 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by TAQuickness
Mine is pretty spikey too. There are way to many variables that effect the motors VE. Best thing you can do is get the trims in order and not smooth it. The spikes you are seeing represent the real life data your motor sees.
Couldnt agree more!!!!! This applies for open loop and closed loop......
02-11-2005, 12:23 PM
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I concur...I do not really smooth mine. I have seen it move the VE table too much on occasion. I do however use it for my spark tables...It is a great tool for that.
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Burst knock is predictive. If the Pcm sees a large delta in airflow (MAF or ve) it automatically pulls timing. You can tweak this in your BURst knock tables in Tuners.
