PCM Diagnostics & Tuning HP Tuners | Holley | Diablo
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

How the heck do you read the Excel File once you export?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 06-19-2005, 12:36 PM
  #1  
TECH Apprentice
Thread Starter
iTrader: (5)
 
Blown Interceptor's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: San Diego, Ca
Posts: 399
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default How the heck do you read the Excel File once you export?

I suck at Excel, and I am wondering how you are suppose to average the LTFT's? From the spreedsheet, they look decent to me, but I could be way off?

I will attach, if anyone wants to check it out??? Or give some advice on what to do...

Thanks,
Jason
Attached Files
File Type: zip
Eds to Home.zip (99.2 KB, 17 views)
Old 06-19-2005, 02:04 PM
  #2  
Moderator
iTrader: (11)
 
jimmyblue's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: East Central Florida
Posts: 12,605
Likes: 0
Received 6 Likes on 6 Posts

Default

Don't go by averages, they only obscure the real deal.

You want no values above zero and the rest as close
(but not over) as possible. Averages tell you nothing
useful. The HPTuners histogram is a clear way of
viewing data, though you also need to know which
fuel trim cell pertains to a given MAP, RPM to make
final sense of the trim "map" in the histo. Alternatively
you can select the RPM, MAP, FTC and LTFT columns
(ctrl-click the column headers) and then choose
Data>Sort and sort by FTC ascending. This will
rearrange the data by trim cell, page through it
and you will see where in MAP and RPM you have
fueling that's off base.
Old 06-19-2005, 02:28 PM
  #3  
TECH Apprentice
Thread Starter
iTrader: (5)
 
Blown Interceptor's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: San Diego, Ca
Posts: 399
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Thanks for the reply!

I am looking over the data, and my O2 sensors @WOT are 880/920, on the average. I am having a problem w/detonation and lowered my timing when I spray(100 Wet) to 26*. I am wondering if the detonation is lack of fuel? Is the 880/920 lean? I could add a bit more fuel when I first to spray @3600rpm.

Thanks,
Jason
Old 06-19-2005, 07:08 PM
  #4  
TECH Addict
iTrader: (6)
 
Lady Redhawk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: sojourning....looking for my city whose builder and maker is God.
Posts: 2,028
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

I didn't see any knock at WOT. You are running a little lean though.
Attached Files
File Type: doc
Blown Interceptor.doc (65.5 KB, 62 views)
File Type: doc
Blown Interceptor pg 2.doc (89.5 KB, 78 views)
Old 06-19-2005, 08:06 PM
  #5  
Staging Lane
 
dvanorder's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 54
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

I did a sort on TPS and you indeed have no KR at WOT (or anywhere else). Looking a little rich at WOT, though narrowband O2's are by no means precise measures of AFR. B2S1 is consistently over 900 mv. B1S1 looks rich towards the end of your WOT run (low .9's) and more reasonable in the .88's for the earlier WOT points. Someone will correct me if I'm wrong, but it looks like fueling isn't your issue at WOT. With no KR recorded, why do you think you were detonating?
Old 06-19-2005, 08:20 PM
  #6  
TECH Addict
iTrader: (6)
 
Lady Redhawk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: sojourning....looking for my city whose builder and maker is God.
Posts: 2,028
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by dvanorder
I did a sort on TPS and you indeed have no KR at WOT (or anywhere else). Looking a little rich at WOT, though narrowband O2's are by no means precise measures of AFR. B2S1 is consistently over 900 mv. B1S1 looks rich towards the end of your WOT run (low .9's) and more reasonable in the .88's for the earlier WOT points. Someone will correct me if I'm wrong, but it looks like fueling isn't your issue at WOT. With no KR recorded, why do you think you were detonating?
I would imagine that he has his timing set at about 27 degrees at WOT but the scan shows it drops down as low as 25 degrees or so. But it is not pulling timing because of knock.....Needs a tune.

Last edited by Lady Redhawk; 06-19-2005 at 08:27 PM.
Old 06-19-2005, 08:42 PM
  #7  
TECH Apprentice
Thread Starter
iTrader: (5)
 
Blown Interceptor's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: San Diego, Ca
Posts: 399
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Thanks for the graphs Lady Redhawk!

I pulled timing @WOT w/HP Tuners and set timing at 26* and it still detonates. My last dyno showed an average of 12.5, not on the spray. When I sprayed, it was 13.1, then it went down to 11.5...a little too rich.

Keep the ideas coming...

Thanks,
Jason
Old 06-20-2005, 08:06 PM
  #8  
TECH Apprentice
Thread Starter
iTrader: (5)
 
Blown Interceptor's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: San Diego, Ca
Posts: 399
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Lady Redhawk
I didn't see any knock at WOT. You are running a little lean though.

I think the reason I don't see KR, is I desensitized the Knock Sensors with HP Tuners, most likely not the best idea in the world.




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:31 PM.