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is this right? or is the car falsely taking out too much fuel?

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Old 09-30-2005, 03:58 PM
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in the upper left hand side of the fuel trim histograms eveyr time i go out the trims dip way way down negative. my ve table is also getting pretty damn low in these areas. it always happens on decel/letting out of the throttle. dfco is shut off. im just afraid that this is false data from the injectors railing positive. i dont want to have a lean condition when giving the car throttle and being in those cells
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You won't be in those cells at anything other than decel. Once you give it any kind of throttle, you'll switch over to the cells to the right. I woudn't lose any sleep over it. Besides, at least they aren't positive. Positive might sway your l-trims the wrong direction.
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ok thanks, i was just worrying that on decel the engine might be running lean, and if i pick the throttle up slightly in those areas that it stays there, dont want problems
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If the trims are showing a negative number, then your motor is rich and the pcm is having to pull fuel to achieve stoichiometric 14.63 A/F ratio. Not a bad thing to be rich at high vacuum signals IMO.
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yeah i know that, i was just worrying about the VE table going so damn low. plus i know with my injectors i had before i was having issues like that at idle, it kept making me pull fule and pull fuel, well the prop fueling was off and gave a faulty rich condition so what i was taking out shouldnt have been taken out
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Makes total sense. That's why at a certain point, I just look at the shape of the VE curve. If it doesn't look like the torque run of a dyno graph, it's probably off. Hand smoothing can keep you in the ballpark.
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if it keeps giving -11 im gonna add fuel and see what it does




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