How to cure surging/jerking at low rpm in gear?
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How to cure surging/jerking at low rpm in gear?
I have a 2000 C5 M6 with a TSP MS3 and a CAI, otherwise power train is stock. I am running in speed density mode (tuned using AutoVE process) and I have been able to tune the car for good WOT power and it idles fine. The problem I am having is after a few seconds in any gear below 1700 rpm she starts to surge and if I don't press the gas or ease off it gets progressively worse until it is jerking/lurching violently . If I press the gas she accelerates smoothly. When logging with EFILive I notice that when this problem starts the timing starts to vary similarly.
Any help would be much appreciated.
Any help would be much appreciated.
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Did you change injectors? I have heard that larger injectors sometimes can't handle a small pulsewidth and will cause that problem by jumping too rich or too lean since they can't handle a "small" squirt of fuel. I have 42# injectors right now and occasionally my car will buck like you say...but most of the time its perfect.
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I got rid of mine with the following....
Timing - Base Spark for 0.08~0.24 grams/cyl
400rpm 24*
800rpm 24*
1200rpm 22* (yes, twenty-two degrees)
1600rpm 24*
2000rpm 27*
2400rpm 31*
2800rpm and up 34*
Throttle Cracker
400rpm 6 grams/second (stall saver)
1000rpm 0 grams/second
1600rpm 0 grams/second
2200rpm 0.75 grams/second
2800rpm 1.5 grams/second
Try that.
You'll have to redo your RAFIG from a cold start. Before you flash the changes above, add 1 gram/second to your Desired Idle Airflow (base running airflow in HPT). Then, flash changes and redo RAFIG.
Timing - Base Spark for 0.08~0.24 grams/cyl
400rpm 24*
800rpm 24*
1200rpm 22* (yes, twenty-two degrees)
1600rpm 24*
2000rpm 27*
2400rpm 31*
2800rpm and up 34*
Throttle Cracker
400rpm 6 grams/second (stall saver)
1000rpm 0 grams/second
1600rpm 0 grams/second
2200rpm 0.75 grams/second
2800rpm 1.5 grams/second
Try that.
You'll have to redo your RAFIG from a cold start. Before you flash the changes above, add 1 gram/second to your Desired Idle Airflow (base running airflow in HPT). Then, flash changes and redo RAFIG.
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Thanks for the help guys.
To answer some of the questions:
It doesn't hangup when I sink the clutch.
I haven't changed the injectors.
SSpdDmon,
I tried your suggestion but still doing it, I think it might be because I need to go beyond 0.24 grams/cyl so I am going to try that and see how it does.
To answer some of the questions:
It doesn't hangup when I sink the clutch.
I haven't changed the injectors.
SSpdDmon,
I tried your suggestion but still doing it, I think it might be because I need to go beyond 0.24 grams/cyl so I am going to try that and see how it does.