9000th01ss

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I have a 2002 camaro that I tune with HPTuners.
I recently bought a 2001 camaro and I want to tune it with HPTuners. I've been told I can take the 2001 VCM to a dealer with my 2002 vin and have them reflash it so it will be a 2002 VCM and work with my HPT program.

I called a few dealers and they gave me no straight answer. I have a feeling they are just going to see if they are compatable which they are.
My 2002 used to be an A4, the 2001 is an A4. So if a dealer looks at it they are going to tell me to install it and it will be fine, which it will but I won't be able to tune it.

Simple question: Are there any sponsors I can send this to and get this done so I can be sure it works out the way I want it to?

jay_lt4

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all you want is the vin changed, i can do that for ya

2xLS1

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If you did a single VIN license on the 02, even if you flash the 01 with the 02 VIN, HP Tuners will treat it as a different vehicle and it will require another license. Single VIN licenses license the VIN and that particular PCM. If you did a 02 model year license, it will work.

9000th01ss

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I got Hp Tuners a while back and I've used it on several 2002 f bodies.

Not sure of their current license situation now, but my VCM Suite came with two vehicles, thats the least you could get back then and I got 2002 f body and 2004 GTO.

foff667

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Why not just purchase the 01' model year license for $199(if you still have your serial style interface) & be able to tune your vehicle without having to go in circles to do so?

9000th01ss

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It's cheaper price wise to get my '01 VCM changed to an '02 VIN.
It might even be cheaper to get a '02 VCM from a junkyard.

I know the '01 VCM has a tune in it and I'd really be sol if I spent $199 and found out it was locked.

I will be honest, the reason is price.

9000th01ss

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Well apparently no GM dealer can do this. I called a bunch, even in different states.

slow

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get a 2002 vin number you want to use, (right transmission) and have your pcm flashed to it by jesse @ wait4me

Or buy a new pcm for a 2002 vin number from him.

Ryan

sreve

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option1

option2

Why not just purchase the 01' model year license for $199(if you still have your serial style interface) & be able to tune your vehicle without having to go in circles to do so?


option 2 is the better choice. if you are bound by emission testing the first one won't work the vin is wrong. even if you are not it could make selling the car a nightmare.

9000th01ss

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I choose have the VCM reflashed to make it work with 2002 tuning equipment. My 2002 was an automatic car and I converted it to a manual, downloaded the bin from HP Tuners bin repository, made some changes and put it in my 2002's VCM, replaced the VIN with my original, never a problem.
It's $199 vs $50.
How many times have you checked the vin in a vehicles computer before a purchase?
I don't need to get it inspected and I don't plan to sell it but if I do sell it I bet the potential buyer won't throw a scanner on and say nope it's got a 2002 VCM in it. How realistic is that?
I could just buy one from a junk yard and throw it in there if THESE jack asses could hand me a computer OUT OF a 2002 f body instead of telling me to have it flashed at a dealer.
Did you catch all that? Junkyard has a pile of VCM's, they say any of them will work if I take it to a GM dealer. At least ten GM dealers said they can't do it. These junkyards might as well sell the VCM's for scrap, oh wait you can't return electrical parts, thats why they sell them.

Bottom line is I PM'ed someone who did this for me before and I'm going to have him do it again, (different site, didn't know he was here)end of story.

jay_lt4

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yes a dealer can do it,, i work at a dealer and i can re-flash your pcm with a different vin #,, most dealers dont have off board programming adapters,, i do have my own

or i can use other software and change your vin or copy your tune from your first pcm to your second one

pm me

9000th01ss

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No, if a dealer says they can't do it, they can't do it, maybe they don't feel like it, maybe they don't know how. But if they say they can't do it what can I do? I can't put a gun to their head and make them do it.

I PM'd you and one other person, like I said when I get home to where the car is I will get the info on where to mail it and how to pay, etc. It should be no later than the 25th.

sreve

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Hey bud i'm not trying to pick a fight. i'm jealous because you do not have the smog ***** to deal with.
you said:
I don't need to get it inspected and I don't plan to sell it but if I do sell it I bet the potential buyer won't throw a scanner on and say nope it's got a 2002 VCM in it. How realistic is that?


very realistic if you sell out of your area. as a potential buyer i will want that car saftey and emissions inspected if you say (as is)i'm using that to beat down your asking price. when they plug in for the OBD test with the wrong vin instant fail.
it gets worse you sell cheap fixerupper w\o a waiver . if they push it the buyer can legally make you bring the car up to code at your expense not everywhere but it works that way here and some places are worse.
i guess i could have thrown more of that out there before i shot from the hip with what i said but if you are going to do the vin change deal i would make sure it matchs the car before you sell it
the junkyard pcms bring good money as cores and will work in your car w\vats tuned out.
whatever you decide if your are in the neighorhood stop bye i can change the vin for you .

9000th01ss

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Me neither, I was just a bit worked up from being told by junkyard people, and GM dealers what needs to be done. They say it needs to be tuned for my engine and trans type. I say all I need is a 2002 engine computer that is known to have come out of an f body. "no, no, no you just need to do this and that....this 2002 truck computer will work just take it by a dealer....."

And even the ones who have the right one ask what transmission, nope this came out of a 6 speed car it won't work. I tell them I have a program that can change it to a different trans (and I've done it before) and they refuse a sale.

So far I bought this car as a roller, had it shipped back to where I live, and I chased down a decent LS1 for it, different odds and ends here and there. As for the VIN the engine won't match, the A4 is the one out of my '02.
But it's all documented, the yards I went to put vins on the invoices, even for the radiator.
Sorry if I came off sounding rude, it was a long day

slow

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also, you also do not have to turn off VATS to make it work in your vehicle, if it has a f-car calibration, the pcm does not care what vehicle it is in, it will start, if it gets the 5volt 50hz enable signal from the BCM. (or trickery box)

Since we do not have smog ****'s here, it does not matter, I have a 2002 pcm in my 98 car, with a correct 98 vin number in ir.

Ryaj

Eurospec2

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We can take care of any operating system/vin swaps you need, give me a call or shoot us a pm if you are interested when you are ready

YellowToy/A

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For a 100.00 $ u can buy the support. It sounds like alot of trouble to send it out for that.

9000th01ss

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No for $199 I can buy the support OR for LESS than $50 ship it out and have a 2002 vin put in it and use the support I have.

Frost

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just make sure that whoever does it doesn't force the VIN, but rather pair up the VIN with a valid OS or HPT will refuse to work with it.

9000th01ss

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What if I just swapped the engine computer from a 2001 Z28 LS1/automatic to a 2002 Firebird LS1/ automatic.
Do I need to make sure they have the same service number? Broadcast code?
I plan to do a rewrite on it.