black_phoenix

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Both V6 and V8...

Sports cars? Muscle cars?

Im confused a little... Can someone elaborate please?

chaman

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It is in reality a pony car. Some books classify the as muscle cars. So they are pony muscle cars. They are not a sport car, the Corvette IS a sport car. The difference is the back seat, pony cars have back seats...sport cars do not.

NC01TA

Too many descriptions are out there so I understand the confusion. You are not alone. You will get many opinions. I personally would consider the Trans Am a muscle car but the Firebird 6 cylinder I would consider a 'sporty' car but not a sports car (there's another definition for you ) The 'sports cars' category is reserved for Corvettes and Porsches, etc.. back seat or not (my 911 has a small backseat). The late 60's Javelin/AMX models didn't have backseats, yet I would still consider them a muscle car with those big block engines. Again, I believe that a muscle car should have a V8 but then I'm sure I would get arguments from the late 80's Grand National crowd!! You see, you just can't define them. Let the opinions continue....

Scott97LT1

Well its pretty obvious our birds are considered RICERS... sheesh

TTA850

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I think pony car is the best definition for the 1st through 4th gen Camaro and Firebird

"Pony car is an American class of automobile launched and inspired by the Ford Mustang in 1964. The term describes an affordable, compact, highly styled car with a sporty or performance-oriented image."

They dont fit the definition of musclecar which is usually a mid size car and they are not a two seat sports car, they dont have the luxury or emphasize comfort like a GT car but could be considered a 2+2 like a porsche 911

I just call them one of my favorite cars

1995blacktattop

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Pontiac called it a muscle car in the late 90s.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTkDMPJRiKs

dopy

If I wanted a pony car I would have gotten a Mustang.

Swiat34

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I describe them as muscle cars. I find my definition of muscle car as this: An American made automobile with a V8 or forced induction V6 engine and rear wheel drive designed as a manufacturer's performance vehicle. Mustang: Muscle car. Camaro: Muscle car. Challenger: muscle car. Charger: muscle car. 300M: Luxury performer, not muscle car. El Dorado: not muscle car. Grand National: Muscle car. Grand Prix GTP: not muscle car.
Some cars skirt the fence line and so it would depend on your use of it. I wouldn't call a stock Cutlass Supreme a muscle car but I have seen them modified into muscle cars.

chaman

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Muscle cars are like pornography...I know what a muscle car is when I see one.

Cape T/A

Most would call it a Muscle car, but I consider that a car from the 60s and 70s

I would call them a pony car i guess since im pretty sure the F-bodys were designed to compete with the mustang.

black_phoenix

iTrader: (27)

thanx for feedback guys... but isnt a muscle car = sports car??? It is a performance car of some sort??... there is no difference for me between them really besides the suspension and the weight

blacknyellow

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insurance wise it is infact a pony car, but in my mind we have badass muscle cars

JD_AMG

A pony car is a type of muscle car (a subclass if you want to call it that). Its just generally a smaller muscle car.

A muscle car is a 2 door that has more than 2 seats (usually 2+2 seating), front engine, RWD, solid axle and available with a V8. A V6 Camaro is still a muscle car because of the chassis, it just doesn't have the "muscle".
Something like the new Camaro is really a "GT" (grand touring) car by definition because it has all of the above except a solid axle. You can get away with calling it muscle though.

A sports car is a 2 door, 2 seater with either RWD or AWD, front, mid or rear engine, independent suspension, and usually available in convertible. A sports car is supposed to be aimed more at handling and driver connection, where as a muscle car is supposed to be aimed more at raw acceleration and speed.
For example a Corvette, Viper, Miata, Solstice, Boxster, etc etc are all sports cars - they fit the definition perfectly.
Where as a Mustang or Camaro fit the definition of a muscle car.

LT1

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From what i understand fbody is a "Pony Car"

A "muscle car" is 2 door, 4 seats, full frame, with big block engine.

Last muscle car produced is the 72 Chevelle.

1998silverbird

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My insurance has it listed as a coupe! I would consider mine a Sports car.

on1wheel01

My vote is muscle