Colesitzy

So my car is going through a bit of an identity crisis. I've been told that only Firehawk hatches had the center brake light and mine had a formy hatch before the last guy switched it out for what I was told it was T/A hatch.
Second I was also told that my car had a LS2 intake on it, which now I realize doesn't make sense if it's an 02 because it should have a LS6 intake.
Finally I've been told with the mods listed in my sig I should be running mid twelves not 13.14. Is this accurate?

97ramsst

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The car in your sig is a TA...that's the factory wing that came on it.

Raoul-Duke

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After that stall and gears you should be mid-low 12's.

Colesitzy

The hatch isn't the same that it came with, the hatch was painted red at one point. The guy I bought it from swapped it, I saw the formy hatch that was on it.
Yeah that's what I figured and to clarify F-bodies don't run high 12s stock right.

Raoul-Duke

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It's been done, but it's usually in negative DA (great track conditions), and with lighter/less optioned F-bods. More often in auto cars. But typically they are low 13's stock.

What you ran isn't bad, could be better. But when you get those gears and a stall it will be a whole different monster. With good conditions and tires you could see high 11's.

DrEvyl

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I have a slightly higher stall (3200), 3.42 gears, stock throttle body, bone stock motor, stock LS1 intake, full exhaust... and my car runs 12.676 @ 108.5 mph. Your car should be faster than mine.

What is your 60 foot time? That's probably why you're running 13s. With those mods, you should be down in the 1.6-1.7 range. Are you running street tires? You're never gonna hook with a high stall on street tires.

LS2 intake... at least from what I've been reading, unless it's ported it's probably not an improvement from the LS6. Don't know why someone would even do that.
https://ls1tech.com/forums/generatio...s2-intake.html

ghardester

Even the base model V6 Firebirds have the center brake light in the rear deck lid. The lower profile deck lids on a Formula and a V6 Firebird are the same. The up-level rear wing of a Trans Am also has the 3rd brake light in the center of that wing.

The signature picture is a bit small but if your nose cone looks like the one in my sig picture it is a Trans Am with the 2 round fog lights on either side of the license plate spot. Formulas and Firebirds don't have those. If your fog lights are right next to the amber running/turn signal lights then the car has a Firebird/Formula front end. Like the picture of DrEvyl's car.

And yes, if you have a 2002 you have a LS6 intake manifold.

BudRacing

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Base


WS6


Formula = base


Firehawk


Looks to me like they all had a center brake light

DrEvyl

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Well, the uplevel spoiler there is for Trans Ams in general. The WS6 does not have a different spoiler, they came with whatever spoiler was appropriate for their trim level, and most Firehawks are like that as well, but there are two other Firehawk spoilers. All of them have a center mounted 3rd brake light.

So there's these 4 possibilities as far as stock goes..

Firebird / Formula (base) spoiler - WS6 Formulas, and base Firehawk Formulas get this one


Trans Am "up level" spoiler.. WS6 Trans Ams, and base Firehawk Trans Ams get this one


The Firehawk spoiler referred to often as "old lumpy"


And the Firehawk spoiler that came on the 10th Anniversary and some of the other 02 Hawks..

eric_cspan

I have a 94 TA with the base looking flat spoiler. So that was not stock? Everything else on the car was stock when I got it.

eric_cspan

I think my 94 TA came with the stock base spoiler

97ramsst

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Well it came with one just like that from the factory if it came with that front bumper...period.

DrEvyl

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On early LT1 Trans Ams the up level spoiler was optional. On the LS1 cars, the up level spoiler was standard on the T/A.

Colesitzy

I swear WCEC gets dumber everyday, I figured that the spoiler thing was BS. I wish I could contact the original owner, I really don't get why it has an LS2 intake or if its even an LS2 intake. Here a pic of my engine bay when I got it, when it was dynoed it made 298hp. Maybe someone here can tell me more.

DrEvyl

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I can't really see that well, but it looks like it could be an LS2 intake, but you can figure it out from these pics.

Here's a visual guide on how to identify them..

LS6 on the left, LS1 on the right. Note the EGR plug on the LS1 intake.


LS2 intake. Note the difference where the throttle body connects to it.

DrEvyl

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Also... dyno numbers can be really misleading for a stalled auto. Take them with a grain of salt.

"MAC"

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Hell yea a stalled auto will definitely produce lower numbers compared to a manual on the dyno but we run better at the track 95% of the time. Never count out a person that has a manual at the track you never know if they can truly shift until you race plus they are usually lighter than you so again thats in their favor as well

Colesitzy

Seriously thanks.

TechCam97

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The low rise spoiler was standard on the Trans Am from 1994-1997, with the hi rise spoiler being an option called the "T43-Uplift Spoiler."



The flat spoiler got increasingly more and more rare as the years went by.

Tranz Zam

I've never seen that last Firehawk spoiler before. Its cool.