Firebird Headlights--ALL COMMENTS/QUESTIONS REGARDING HEADLIGHTS GO IN HERE
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Swapped headlight gears, lights open/close as opposites?
So I swapped the headlight gears as one of my motors were grinding. I go out and hook power back in to the car today and the side that was grinding is only closing about halfway, and doing the opposite of the passenger side.
When I turn the lights on, the passenger side comes up as normal, and the drives side tries to close, but only goes about half way. When I shut them off, the drivers side comes back up, and passenger side closes.
I've tried lowering the driver's side manually, but it stops at the same down position as when I cycle the lights. I replaced both sides, but the drivers side was the one with the issue.
I tried to search this, but I guess I couldn't find the search right words to bring up the problem.
When I turn the lights on, the passenger side comes up as normal, and the drives side tries to close, but only goes about half way. When I shut them off, the drivers side comes back up, and passenger side closes.
I've tried lowering the driver's side manually, but it stops at the same down position as when I cycle the lights. I replaced both sides, but the drivers side was the one with the issue.
I tried to search this, but I guess I couldn't find the search right words to bring up the problem.
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Mine was doing the same thing when I replaced the passenger side headlight motor. Turn the lights on, disconnect the battery, open the "closed" one manually by rotating the top of the motor and make sure the rotating arms on the motor match the position on the correctly functioning one.
Then re-connect the battery and shut them off and on a couple of times. The entire process MIGHT take a couple of tries. IIRC, I had to do it once or twice to get them to match up.
Then re-connect the battery and shut them off and on a couple of times. The entire process MIGHT take a couple of tries. IIRC, I had to do it once or twice to get them to match up.
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Well...when hooking the battery back up, the car decided to lock itself. With the keys inside. And the windows rolled up. I only have one set of keys. What the actual ****?
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Mine was doing the same thing when I replaced the passenger side headlight motor. Turn the lights on, disconnect the battery, open the "closed" one manually by rotating the top of the motor and make sure the rotating arms on the motor match the position on the correctly functioning one.
Then re-connect the battery and shut them off and on a couple of times. The entire process MIGHT take a couple of tries. IIRC, I had to do it once or twice to get them to match up.
Then re-connect the battery and shut them off and on a couple of times. The entire process MIGHT take a couple of tries. IIRC, I had to do it once or twice to get them to match up.
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I'm still trying to open the damn thing up.
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Mine was doing the same thing when I replaced the passenger side headlight motor. Turn the lights on, disconnect the battery, open the "closed" one manually by rotating the top of the motor and make sure the rotating arms on the motor match the position on the correctly functioning one.
Then re-connect the battery and shut them off and on a couple of times. The entire process MIGHT take a couple of tries. IIRC, I had to do it once or twice to get them to match up.
Then re-connect the battery and shut them off and on a couple of times. The entire process MIGHT take a couple of tries. IIRC, I had to do it once or twice to get them to match up.
Lesson learned, roll a window down when messing with the battery. Good god. Believe it or not, rattling the battery terminal around the post eventually popped the hatch and unlocked the doors.
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Yup, I hate these lights. Hawks 3rd gen makes a nice gear set with a re-enforcing t-bar pair that I replaced mine with. Those t-bars keep the gear from wobbling and wearing on the worm drive. Yes, it's important to match the rotation arms or your car will always be winking at ya. Also, replace the long motor mount bolts on the correct side or the rotation arm will catch on the longer side of the bolt.
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Odd headlight issue? Maybe stripped gear? Here's whats happening...
Pass side light is giving me issues. Connectors/pigtail is not corroded to the module. Lights still turn on even when assembly doesn't flip up.
I CANNOT MANUALLY CRANK LIGHT UP!
When I turn it to pop it up manually, it makes a clunk like something inside is binding and now back on track. Then I will turn lights on and it will pop up by the light switch for a few times needed for night(which I just try to use it for the day at this point).
The motor does NOT make any sound and acts like its just not getting power. Not humming or clicking.. nothing at all. Then I un-clunk it manually works fine. SO WTF??? Need new gears?
Thanks in advance
Pass side light is giving me issues. Connectors/pigtail is not corroded to the module. Lights still turn on even when assembly doesn't flip up.
I CANNOT MANUALLY CRANK LIGHT UP!
When I turn it to pop it up manually, it makes a clunk like something inside is binding and now back on track. Then I will turn lights on and it will pop up by the light switch for a few times needed for night(which I just try to use it for the day at this point).
The motor does NOT make any sound and acts like its just not getting power. Not humming or clicking.. nothing at all. Then I un-clunk it manually works fine. SO WTF??? Need new gears?
Thanks in advance
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Ugh, thank ****, finally got my passenger side headlight nearly perfect. Turns out (likely when removing the first motors) I bent the motor arm and it was going past the piece that stops it. I figured that was bent, not the motor. Anyways took the light off and bent it back, closes and doesn't go too far this time so stays in the right position. I even got the light almost aligned perfectly. The driver's side now looks off but don't have the patience to screw with it today.
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Odd headlight issue? Maybe stripped gear? Here's whats happening...
Pass side light is giving me issues. Connectors/pigtail is not corroded to the module. Lights still turn on even when assembly doesn't flip up.
I CANNOT MANUALLY CRANK LIGHT UP!
When I turn it to pop it up manually, it makes a clunk like something inside is binding and now back on track. Then I will turn lights on and it will pop up by the light switch for a few times needed for night(which I just try to use it for the day at this point).
The motor does NOT make any sound and acts like its just not getting power. Not humming or clicking.. nothing at all. Then I un-clunk it manually works fine. SO WTF??? Need new gears?
Thanks in advance
Pass side light is giving me issues. Connectors/pigtail is not corroded to the module. Lights still turn on even when assembly doesn't flip up.
I CANNOT MANUALLY CRANK LIGHT UP!
When I turn it to pop it up manually, it makes a clunk like something inside is binding and now back on track. Then I will turn lights on and it will pop up by the light switch for a few times needed for night(which I just try to use it for the day at this point).
The motor does NOT make any sound and acts like its just not getting power. Not humming or clicking.. nothing at all. Then I un-clunk it manually works fine. SO WTF??? Need new gears?
Thanks in advance
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Seems most of the time its the connector you can get a new one from Gm . Cleaning the connectors with various electrical contact cleaners seemed to only work so so on my car permanent fix was to replace the connector.
If not connector really its not that hard or expensive to replace the motors. And guess guy could put in the better gears. I have actually not had a gear go and have several of these cars 96 Ta, 97 ta, 99ta and 2002 ta .Wonder if a lot of these are damaged by trying to open them when they are frozen with freezing rain or have heavy snow on top of them. I don't winter drive my cars so that might be reason they are not stripping out the gears very often.
I also have had a headlight stopper bolt break on one of my cars and it scratched up the front bumper cover pretty good. I used a different stopper bolt setup as gm discontinued the stopper bolts it seems but think you can still find some stock here and there.
That corroded connector problem on my drivers side did drive me nuts. Sometimes it worked and sometimes it didn't. sometimes the light would not go up or down and sometimes the light would not come on.
Expect the passenger side to go sooner or later maybe sooner but at least this time just change out the connector. Should maybe buy a few of them while they are still available don't have part number handy right now or could post it for you guys. And maybe other aftermarket companies offer it as well. Also just had to replace a driving light socket and man gm wanted like 100 bucks for that socket /pigtail. Found it at another discount place and guy gave me it for 60 bucks. Gm part.
If not connector really its not that hard or expensive to replace the motors. And guess guy could put in the better gears. I have actually not had a gear go and have several of these cars 96 Ta, 97 ta, 99ta and 2002 ta .Wonder if a lot of these are damaged by trying to open them when they are frozen with freezing rain or have heavy snow on top of them. I don't winter drive my cars so that might be reason they are not stripping out the gears very often.
I also have had a headlight stopper bolt break on one of my cars and it scratched up the front bumper cover pretty good. I used a different stopper bolt setup as gm discontinued the stopper bolts it seems but think you can still find some stock here and there.
That corroded connector problem on my drivers side did drive me nuts. Sometimes it worked and sometimes it didn't. sometimes the light would not go up or down and sometimes the light would not come on.
Expect the passenger side to go sooner or later maybe sooner but at least this time just change out the connector. Should maybe buy a few of them while they are still available don't have part number handy right now or could post it for you guys. And maybe other aftermarket companies offer it as well. Also just had to replace a driving light socket and man gm wanted like 100 bucks for that socket /pigtail. Found it at another discount place and guy gave me it for 60 bucks. Gm part.