To Restore or Not to Restore - LS1TECH

Go Back   LS1TECH > VEHICLE SPECIFIC FORUMS > Pontiac Firebird 1967-2002
Log In 
Search


Pontiac Firebird 1967-2002 Birds of a feather flock together


To Restore or Not to Restore

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 01-19-2006, 06:47 PM   #1
Staging Lane
 
transfan0186's Avatar
 
Trader Rating: 2
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Brogue, PA
Posts: 89
Send a message via AIM to transfan0186
Default To Restore or Not to Restore

I have a 1986 trans am sitting in my back yard now for almost a two years . Once upon a time i was going to fix it up and drive it. I paid $150 for the car.I bought TT2's 17x8($800 plus shipping), 4 Bolt 350 Engine 67-78 High Performance Block ($350 for whole truck engine included), Inland Driveline Aluminum Drive Shaft ($300), New front end/Front Fender/Door/ground effects/other things ($350+). Recently the car was in a huge hail storm and broke the front window. This is another fix untop of just about everything else.
Well I bought a 2001 ws6 t/a about a year ago and now i want to do everything with it. Should i hold on to the 86 t/a or let it go? I could sell most of this but i will take a huge loss in money
What do you think?
transfan0186 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-19-2006, 07:05 PM   #2
TECH Junkie
 
ROCNDAV's Avatar
 
Trader Rating: 95
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Pasadena, CA
Posts: 3,698
Send a message via AIM to ROCNDAV Send a message via MSN to ROCNDAV Send a message via Yahoo to ROCNDAV
Default

The drive shaft may be transferrable as possibly the wheels (don't know the style). The other stuff may sell well on this board, a 3rd gen forum and/or ebay.
__________________
2002 SS Convertible -#2742 UMI SFC, LCA & C5 Brakes
ROCNDAV is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-19-2006, 07:22 PM   #3
TECH Enthusiast
 
Trader Rating: 0
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Fairfax VA
Posts: 564
Default

ditch the turd gen and go with the LS1 car.
__________________
In NoVa/DC/MD & need a detail? PM me

'88 Porsche 951 Turbo | '07 335i | '08 Corvette C6 - 60-130 in 8.5sec | 06 GTO | '03 C5 Z06 - 12.2@116 stock
BRIAN98Z28 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-19-2006, 07:50 PM   #4
TECH Apprentice
 
Carter Hays's Avatar
 
Trader Rating: 0
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 393
Default

Quote:
Recently the car was in a huge hail storm and broke the front window. This is another fix untop of just about everything else.
Part it out. Scrap the body. I've started projects like that, they become money pits real quick.
Carter Hays is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-19-2006, 08:36 PM   #5
Launching!
 
bbfirebird's Avatar
 
Trader Rating: 0
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: AZ
Posts: 187
Default

you can spend literally over twenty grand restoring an 86 trans am to MINT condition, and you'd still have a car worth $6,000 tops. unless you really like third gens, part it out.
__________________
Currently driving a stock 2006 Toyota Tundra, but will have another F-body or Vette in the future...
SOLD: 2000 Firebird Formula, NBM M6 hardtop
SOLD: 2002 Camaro SS #7575, NBM A4 t-top
SOLD: 1997 Firebird V6 A4 hardtop
bbfirebird is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-19-2006, 10:11 PM   #6
TECH Veteran
 
Wnts2Go10O's Avatar
 
Trader Rating: 12
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Rockville, MD
Posts: 4,314
Send a message via AIM to Wnts2Go10O
Default

poor car
__________________
89 Camaro RS: 6.0L, L92 heads, Patriot Golds, LS7 cam, Spec Flywheel, Ram Clutch, T56, Pro 5.0, Lous Short Stick, L76 Intake, Holley 90mm TB, 42LB delphi injectors, 255 Pump.
Quote:
Originally Posted by President George W. Bush
I think the national anthem ought to be sung in English, and I think people who want to be a citizen of this country ought to learn English and they ought to learn to sing the national anthem in English.
May 1 2011
Wnts2Go10O is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-19-2006, 10:27 PM   #7
Launching!
 
LS1Z28's Avatar
 
Trader Rating: 17
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Lake Elsinore
Posts: 275
Default

Save it Third gens are getting more valuable every day. I re did mine and have no regrets. You can see the resto in my sig.
__________________
99 LS1 F1 Convertible
http://ImageEvent.com/ls1z28/f1camaro

1990 Iroc-Z 5.7
http://ImageEvent.com/ls1z28/1990irocz

1967 SS Camaro
http://ImageEvent.com/ls1z28/tommyscar
LS1Z28 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-19-2006, 10:33 PM   #8
Teching In
 
Seancass's Avatar
 
Trader Rating: 0
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Purdue, IN
Posts: 44
Default

really, its a $150 car. you arnt gaining much by selling it and your situation may change so that you can start working on it. It sounds like you are building a drag type car out of it so maybe that could be you're project while the LS1 is the DD.
or, just build up the sweet LS1 and get rid of the old junker car.
__________________
Seancass

cass
Seancass is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-19-2006, 10:40 PM   #9
Staging Lane
 
Trader Rating: 0
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 73
Default

keep it and put a ls1 in that bitch if your not gonna profit
banshee400 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-19-2006, 10:42 PM   #10
Moderator
 
jimmyblue's Avatar
 
Trader Rating: 11
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: East Central Florida
Posts: 12,389
Default

Don't restore the carcass unless it has documented
value of some sort. There are too many around for
supply & demand to help you out. It would have to
be somehow special, to be an "investment". And like
I tell the GF, not that she listens, it's only an
"investment" if you actually plan to sell it and take
the money back out. Just buying it for what you
think is a good price, doesn't count.

I'd think more in terms of "superBeater" - stay
cheap and grungy and put the short dollar into
bang-for-the-buck ***-haulin' parts. Lighten
it up, make it go, and park it wherever you
feel like.
__________________


2002 SS convertible

SLP Blackwing lid, 85mm MAF, 85mm Professional Products intake & TB, SLP CME, JBAs/Mufflex tubes . SLP Y, McCord cutout, Fuddle 3500/2.0, GM truck pan, '98 flexplate, 3.42s, T-2R, MAC cover, welded tubes, Hotchkiss PHR, springs; BMR bolt-in LCA brackets, K-member; UMI TA, boxed stock 1LE LCAs, SLP Bilstein / Gabriel air shocks (F/R); Strano 35/22 sway bars, 224/224 116 cam, LT1 rad, HPTuners 12.6@112MPH
jimmyblue is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-19-2006, 10:47 PM   #11
TECH Senior Member
 
NHRAMAN's Avatar
 
Trader Rating: 1
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Vancouver,[KITSILANO].B.C. Canada *WestCoast*
Posts: 8,824
Default

I am in the 'do not bother' catagory.' 86 was not that great a year, although it was the last carbed one I think....correct.??? [ although a t/a is a t/a ..]
__________________
http://i12.tinypic.com/52garnl.jpg
"99 NBM WS6 - M6..Vinci/Crane, MSD, Hurst, Detroit Tru-Trac, Edelbrock, Percy, ARP, QTEC, Flow., GMPP, Centerforce, Lakewood, Eibach, Bilstein, Hotchkiss, Susp.Tech, SLP, KN, Autometer, Optima, LS6 Intake, !Cats, 3:73's, Hood Pins, Fire Ext.....4 - Power Tours
NHRAMAN is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-19-2006, 11:01 PM   #12
TECH Fanatic
 
AronZ28's Avatar
 
Trader Rating: 2
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Murfreesboro TN
Posts: 1,620
Default

Unless the body is really clean(which it doesn't sound like it), junk it. As already stated, 1986 wasn't a great year anyways. There are thousands of other 1986 Trans Ams in better shape out there that somebody could restore.
__________________
Current Ride:
1992 Lexus SC300, 5 speed, 76k miles . . . .
Quote:
Originally Posted by trilkb View Post
Last time I walked into an auto zone an employee told me "have you tried to google it? I dont even really work on cars"
Its like having a vegetarian as head chef at a steak house
AronZ28 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-19-2006, 11:12 PM   #13
TECH Regular
 
Lordsauran's Avatar
 
Trader Rating: 1
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Tomball/Houston
Posts: 476
Send a message via AIM to Lordsauran Send a message via Yahoo to Lordsauran
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by NHRAMAN
I am in the 'do not bother' catagory.' 86 was not that great a year, although it was the last carbed one I think....correct.??? [ although a t/a is a t/a ..]
umm my friend has a 89 camaro z28 with a carbed 305, so im guessing they still had carbs, or maybe his has a different engine?
__________________

2002 Trans Am WS-6 A4 #963|341rwhp 354rwtq| Just bolt on's
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nine Ball View Post
He pulled me over because he disagreed with my testing of the Nitto tires on a public street.
My Myspace
Lordsauran is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-19-2006, 11:48 PM   #14
Staging Lane
 
96formvert's Avatar
 
Trader Rating: 0
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Cincinnati, Ohio
Posts: 74
Default

Is anyone bitching about the car sitting there or is it in the way? You won't make a lot of money off of it, so maybe throw a tarp/car cover on it and you'll get around to it some day. It would make a good drag car.

I do like the idea of doing a cheap build on it though like car craft with junkyard parts....

In reality, I see nice 3rd gen T/A's pretty cheap for under 2 g's. You'd probably be better off buying one of those and fixing it up if you wanted to restore one. It would probably be cheaper in the long run. Maybe use the rough one you have for a parts car?
__________________
96 Formula Convertible A4 , white, bolt ons, 3.42's, ws6 hood and wheels
96formvert is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-20-2006, 01:49 AM   #15
11 Second Club
 
SweeTbone's Avatar
 
Trader Rating: 8
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Toledo, OH
Posts: 2,521
Default

May as well keep it. You may one day decide to start it back up. Right now, my LS1 is my DD, but eventually, it will be garaged. And there is a finite number of things I plan/want to do with it. Once you're done with the 2001 WS6, you may want something else to build up. Besides, it always makes sense to own multiple Birds.
__________________

-2000 Maple Red Metallic Trans Am M6 :Kooks LTs w/ Flowmaster 1 Chambers Dumped ,PRC 5.3L 2.5 Heads, Torquer V3, FAST 90, MWC 9" 4.11 Wavetrac, Textralia Z-grip, Tick Adj. MC, 11.41 @ 122.3 MPH 445 RWHP, 392 ft/lbs
SweeTbone is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-20-2006, 08:32 AM   #16
'Bird Director
 
y2k_ta's Avatar
 
Trader Rating: 80
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Central Indiana Honors: 4th grade spelling bee contestant
Posts: 12,623
Default

Right at this moment, I'd say stick with modding the LS1 'bird.
__________________

www.car-art.us | car-art.us facebook | NMCA LSX #600 / OC #9500
1995 Firebird 4.8L Turbo Street/Strip Project | BUY IN GLASS
y2k_ta is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-20-2006, 09:04 AM   #17
Banned
 
~JOSHUA's Avatar
 
Trader Rating: 92
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Atlanta
Posts: 7,765
Default

Cut your losses now on the '86.
~JOSHUA is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-21-2006, 09:22 PM   #18
11 Second Club
 
RGR Pete's Avatar
 
Trader Rating: 0
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Abingdon,Maryland
Posts: 271
Default

They made a lot of 86's, I had a TPI 383 86 IROC and it was a money pit, once I got my LS1 she was history.):
__________________
2001 WS6 Trans Am a4
224/228 cam, AFR 205's, Kooks w/cats, Vig 3200, Lid, Asp, Rapid Tune, BGRA, Strange 12 bolt
11.44@119.2 1.55 60ft M/T Drag Radials
12/3/11 Cecil County
FAST 90/NW 90=+ 21.5 rwhp
RGR Pete is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off


 

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:51 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7 AC2
Copyright ©2000 - 2015, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Advertising - Terms of Service - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service - JOBS
Emails & Contact Details