97 Formula?
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97 Formula?
Ok all you Pontiac gurus, I need a little schooling. There is a 97 Formula for sale here locally that a friend of mine was interested in. It has all of the Formy stickers/graphics, but has a ram air hood. Is this a factory option on Formula cars? A good possiblity is the previous owner put the hood on, but he hasn't got any details on the car yet, so I thought I would ask you guys. I know they made some WS6 Forumulas in the LS1 models, just curious about LT1's. THANKS!
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Formulas had the same hood as the Trans Ams for the 97 model year. Check the RPO sticker on the door or under the center console lid and see if the WS6 RPO is there. If it is a WS6 car it should have 17" wheels and the Ram Air air box that is open on the top of the air box so that it can meet and seal to the hood.
Neither car came with the Ram Air hood unless they had the WS6 package on them from the factory.
Formulas had the same hood as the Trans Ams for the 97 model year. Check the RPO sticker on the door or under the center console lid and see if the WS6 RPO is there. If it is a WS6 car it should have 17" wheels and the Ram Air air box that is open on the top of the air box so that it can meet and seal to the hood.
Neither car came with the Ram Air hood unless they had the WS6 package on them from the factory.
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The 97 Formula was a V6 body with a TransAm drivetrain. The only stock graphics were a sticker on the right side of the front and rear bumpers lettered "Formula". (Earlier models said "Formula V8") Any other graphics present would have been aftermarket. On the WS6 or Firehawk models, I am not sure.
As far as the hood, check for the 17" wheels with the WS6 letters, as well as the RPO as mentioned above. IIRC, the letters WS6 would also be on the right rear, which you did not mention.
If it is a true WS6 model, it is a rare car. If not, it is just a great car.
As far as the hood, check for the 17" wheels with the WS6 letters, as well as the RPO as mentioned above. IIRC, the letters WS6 would also be on the right rear, which you did not mention.
If it is a true WS6 model, it is a rare car. If not, it is just a great car.
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Ok, thanks guys. The car has aftermarket 18 in. wheels so that doesn't help. I dont think it has the WS6 badge either. I will tell my friend to check the code. How rare are WS6 Formys, or Firehawks? Would it be worth 8k?
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Originally Posted by 97redTA
Well hello, Kyle. How many miles are on it and who's looking to get it? It'd have to be very nice with low mileage to be worth 8 grand, in my opinion.
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Yep, that's me looking for something else! The car was in perfect shape as far as cosmetically, but a few things were found wrong with it when I drove it. There was a pretty strong vibration in the car while it was moving, more noticable when you sit in the passenger seat. The front end was sitting on the ground, so the exhaust was rubbing on EVERYTHING!!! Also, it didn't have power steering. I checked the fluid, it was full. I am assuming it needs a power steering pump. Also, the check engine light was on, but I am assuming that is from the exhaust (off-road pipe) but I would have to have it checked out before I bought it. Like I said, it was great as far as looks, and it had a good bit of power. But I don't think it was worth $8,900, plus having to fix a lot of things on it right from the start. As far as whether it's a WS6, I didn't look on the door or console for the WS6 code, but the vin# is 2G2FV22P8V2208896. Couldn't you tell from the vin whether it's a WS6?
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Someone could tell, but I don't know anything about VIN codes. It's 95% likely that its not a WS6 especially if it doesn't have the badge on the rear bumper, and like sneakyws6 said, it would have the airbox in the middle of the engine compartment with an open filter instead of off to the side next to the fenderwell. And it's not worth the money anyway. Most people won't pay that for ANY lt1 car, and plus, you'll find that it would probably be cheaper to have gotten an Ls1 car by the time you make the kind of power you want.
Ls1+big cam+boltons+tune= 415+ rwhp
415rwhp lt1= Well I'm still trying to figure that one out...
Ls1+big cam+boltons+tune= 415+ rwhp
415rwhp lt1= Well I'm still trying to figure that one out...
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Yeah, that's what I was thinking. It's not worth that much money anyhow. It does have the center airbox with the open filter right under the "ram air" part of the hood. Oh well, I think I've decided to stick with an old fox body mustang anyways. They just look better in my opinion, and they are cheap to buy, and cheap to make lots of power.
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Yeah, you should get what YOU want most. So why did you sell your stang? Just ready for a change? Oh and for future reference, I found that that there is a link to a 4th gen fbody VIN decoder in one of the stickys in the firebird specific forum.
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Just as an FYI the VIN decoder can not tell you if a car is a WS6 car or not. It is not encoded into the VIN, only on the RPO sheet on the door, or console lid. Only GM, SLP, or ASC would be able to tell you if a particular car's VIN is for sure a SS or WS6 car as they will have it in the build records.
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Originally Posted by 97redTA
So you're shopping around for a camaro now, Kyle? You sellin the mustang or starting a collection?
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Originally Posted by 97redTA
Yeah that'll be awesome. Going for the A4? Less fun, but it might save you a 12 bolt in the long run...
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I'm totally with you on this one, bruther. I'm ready to trade mine for a stock ls1 A4 at any time. High horsepower, stalled automatic with sticky tires may not really be less fun, just a different kind of fun...
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Originally Posted by 97redTA
I'm totally with you on this one, bruther. I'm ready to trade mine for a stock ls1 A4 at any time. High horsepower, stalled automatic with sticky tires may not really be less fun, just a different kind of fun...
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Its not really that I had major issues, it's that I had a major amount of small issues. Namely rear end issues. And thats the gay part of having a 6 speed. Not to mention I've been fuckn with it for the past four years. ****, even when the T/A works, I'd just at least be driving the LS400 most of the time. So I figure, combine the perks of both cars and throw in a nice converter, and I might really be working with something here...