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Old 08-28-2007, 11:22 AM
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First night out she ran a 13.39 @ 104 spinning (Old Nittos,) in drive, chirping 1-2 shift. But on the way home we raced a cobra that said he ran a 12.9 and him (me and my brother in the back seat aided traction somewhat), but the worst part was, my mom was driving!!! .
She bought it with all the mods already installed.

Mods:

"H" pipe w/ Flowmasters (OFF ROAD)
SLP lid
Vette rims
3.90 rear gear
shift kit


It fells like it makes over 400 hp though, what other mods could it have ???




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i wouldnt consider this car a "sleeper" by any means. these times are normal for an A4 w/ lid, exhaust and gear. its gonna be around 310 rwhp according to what mods you mentioned, nowhere near 400 hp. you'd have a noticable healthy cam lope, and headers with a better flowing exhaust if you were hoping for 400 hp, a well as ALL the other supporting bolt ons.
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it sounds like you all had a blast. Congrats to having a super cool mom with an awesome car. Stay safe!
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Originally Posted by kyles2000z
i wouldnt consider this car a "sleeper" by any means. these times are normal for an A4 w/ lid, exhaust and gear. its gonna be around 310 rwhp according to what mods you mentioned, nowhere near 400 hp. you'd have a noticable healthy cam lope, and headers with a better flowing exhaust if you were hoping for 400 hp, a well as ALL the other supporting bolt ons.
Uh, my dad (being an accomplished builder of (Pontiac) race motors) estimates the crank hp at 380-400, not rwhp as, I believe, you assumed. We are unsure of any other mods that it could have possibly be installed and would apprieciated guidance in guessing what other mods could possibly be installed, because we are Pontiac poeple and know only a little about chevy mills. Also you camaro is SWEET! how much did all of the mods cost?

ps the trap speed was 104 mph
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being an accomplished fanatic of poncho mills, i would like to know who your dad is.
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those arent spectacular times for your car. BONE STOCK LS1s have, with good air, traction, and driving, gone low 13s if not hitting the 12.9s before, on street tires. drag radials help alot, and so does it being an auto with a gear swap. theres nothing special done to it, trust me. crank hp would be im guessing 370ish, rwhp around 310 or so. if the only mods done are what you listed, its one small step up from stock. that being said, you dont have a factory freak......you dont have a modified motor.....you dont have anything secret. what you have, pal, is an LS1, and THAT is what a good LS1 can do on a good day. your dad is probably thinking something must be done to it for it to run like that basically stock. but, again, on a good day, with good driving, thats what an LS1 can do, especially with gears. we all know these cars were underrated and underestimated from day one. 13.3 is a very good time for an auto LS1. not fantasic, but very good. if you were running 12.8s or lower, then id say for sure something more was done to it. the et. is good, the trap speed isnt so high. the et shows its an auto, good traction and very good launch. then trap speed is average. my car, in sig, ran at best 13.4 @ 108. that shows a shitty launch (stick shift, no practice drag racing) with no traction. but high horsepower, pulling hard up top to get a fast trap speed.

youre only 12.....im sure it feels blindingly fast. but until you actually drive one, bone stock and then with bolt-ons, gears, etc., youll understand what speed feels like. just be glad your mom has a nice car, and if you stay on her good side, it might be yours in a few years. take care of it, learn about it, enjoy it when you can.
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Originally Posted by EchoMirage
youre only 12.....im sure it feels blindingly fast. but until you actually drive one, bone stock and then with bolt-ons, gears, etc., youll understand what speed feels like. just be glad your mom has a nice car, and if you stay on her good side, it might be yours in a few years. take care of it, learn about it, enjoy it when you can.
You should know that these times were w/ old nittos(It spun alot). My dad thinks the T/A would, in fact do 12.8 range w/ better tires(We are getting some this month).Also, I was almost born in my dads 10 sec. GTO (I do not remember this car), DRIVEN his 12 sec. GTO and riden in (w/nos) 10 sec street cars. I know what fast is, and this car is pretty quick,not blindingly fast, but quick. As for it being mine, I want a black WS6 A4 stroker motor (383).
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lol so its not your car, but making it apear to be in your sig?!? jk man, its cool to be in a family that enjoys fast cars. but thanks for the compliments, i bought the car for $11k, and have put about $5k in it.
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Cool mother take care of her and her t/a
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Originally Posted by kyles2000z
lol so its not your car, but making it apear to be in your sig?!? jk man, its cool to be in a family that enjoys fast cars. but thanks for the compliments, i bought the car for $11k, and have put about $5k in it.
Nice, a car that looks bad @$$ and delivers is what that thing is!!!
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Oh, by the way, were getting new tires tomorrow! I'll get some vid then!!!
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i know this is a lil off subject, but you live awful close to leoma. your dad isnt who i think he is, is he?
Old 08-29-2007, 08:56 AM
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No, Does Terry Spear sound familiar???
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i think i have seen his name around on the PYP forums some. i though you were one of the Butlers. they know a little about wringing some stupid horsepower from a traditional pontiac. and the pontiac family is a close one.
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Actually, he's friends w/ the Butlers.
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Time are pretty good, if there were 2 of you in the back. You are probably at 370HP, not 400 though, sorry.
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young en' you make me feel old
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First rule of thumb: Never buy a modified car without knowing what has been done to it. You'll never know 100% what was done to it from other folks. The owner of the car that actually did the modifications is your best bet.
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Noticed the timeslip date is from December



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