Confirmed: SLP Firehawk G8 - Discuss
09-22-2008, 02:22 PM
#101
Launching!
iTrader: (1)
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Huntington Beach, CA
Posts: 246
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
SLP could have become an overnight hero with the LSX world had they announced that they will be converting new Camaros over to a Firebird looking package. Think about it, a "Firehawk" based on the new Camaro. Simple nose swap to a 1st gen Firebird theme, some different wheels and emblems, maybe a ram air hood. THAT would have rocked, and been worth of the Firehawk name.
09-22-2008, 02:34 PM
#104
LS1TECH Sponsor
iTrader: (2)
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Toms River, NJ
Posts: 245
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Wrong. The 2010 Camaro will be the "closest thing to a Firebird that we are ever going to get". SLP could have become an overnight hero with the LSX world had they announced that they will be converting new Camaros over to a Firebird looking package. Think about it, a "Firehawk" based on the new Camaro. Simple nose swap to a 1st gen Firebird theme, some different wheels and emblems, maybe a ram air hood. THAT would have rocked, and been worthy of the Firehawk name.
Someone mentioned Chargers, Daytonas' etc... but keep in mind those were actual vehicle models. Models have always changed. "Firehawk" was a special edition of the Firebird, not a model. It is similar to special upper-tier models like ZL-1, ZR-1, Z06, ACR, Cobra, GT500, etc...
Would you buy a Chevy Aveo Z06? Do you think Corvette owners would get pissed about that name?
I would have rather seen them call it simply the "SLP G8". I would have bought one. They still have the same target audience with the name "SLP Edition G8", but they also do not alienate the enthusiast group that helped build their reputation. That would have been a win-win. I will not buy a Firehawk G8, I will simply modify a GXP instead.
Someone mentioned Chargers, Daytonas' etc... but keep in mind those were actual vehicle models. Models have always changed. "Firehawk" was a special edition of the Firebird, not a model. It is similar to special upper-tier models like ZL-1, ZR-1, Z06, ACR, Cobra, GT500, etc...
Would you buy a Chevy Aveo Z06? Do you think Corvette owners would get pissed about that name?
I would have rather seen them call it simply the "SLP G8". I would have bought one. They still have the same target audience with the name "SLP Edition G8", but they also do not alienate the enthusiast group that helped build their reputation. That would have been a win-win. I will not buy a Firehawk G8, I will simply modify a GXP instead.
-David
09-22-2008, 02:35 PM
#105
If only there was a recent case study about taking a regular car like a grand prix or something, making it fast and then calling it a GTO or some name with historic significance.
Then we would all have an idea how well this similar idea would be received.
Oh well, nothing comes to mind.
Then we would all have an idea how well this similar idea would be received.
Oh well, nothing comes to mind.
09-22-2008, 02:37 PM
#106
TECH Resident
iTrader: (3)
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Lake Delton, WI
Posts: 811
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
From strictly a business standpoint it's a great idea.....BUT it's almost like coming out with a new mini-van and calling it a Corvette Van.
09-22-2008, 02:40 PM
#107
Please do not try to speculate on something of which you have no knowledge. I have not yet made any announcements regarding anything other than there will be a Firehawk package available on the V6 and V8 G8's along with a Firehawk Supercharger package.
Due to current restraints and obligations to magazines, any announcements will be made in conjunction with the timing of these issues.
Regards,
David
Due to current restraints and obligations to magazines, any announcements will be made in conjunction with the timing of these issues.
Regards,
David
If I am wrong say so....if not then let the speculation run wild!
09-22-2008, 02:42 PM
#110
Teching In
iTrader: (1)
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Sweden
Posts: 28
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
A Firehawk is a bad *** Firebird.
Why not a Cadillac Stretch Limo Firehawk or a Buick or a Saab 95 Firehawk from Trollhättan
Firehawk R.I.P 2002
Call it SLP GR8
Stefan Sweden
Why not a Cadillac Stretch Limo Firehawk or a Buick or a Saab 95 Firehawk from Trollhättan
Firehawk R.I.P 2002
Call it SLP GR8
Stefan Sweden
09-22-2008, 02:45 PM
#111
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (1)
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Fort Worth, TX
Posts: 1,894
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Better watch out, next there will be a G8 WS6 or a Formula WS6 G8.......oh......god.........dont please dont.
But seriously, name it something else....the IDEA is badass but the name not so much. I am curious to what you guys will do on Camaro.
But seriously, name it something else....the IDEA is badass but the name not so much. I am curious to what you guys will do on Camaro.
09-22-2008, 02:46 PM
#112
I really would like to know what was so special about the firehawk package on the 4th gen. I really cant find anything special about it.
I really cant understand all the crying about this. Its a joke.
09-22-2008, 02:48 PM
#113
09-22-2008, 02:52 PM
#114
I guess it just makes me shake my head that they would even think about keeping the script the same as well.
It really makes you think that they had a huuuge supply of Firehawk branded chochkies sitting around and figured out a way to get rid of them.
Do you guys need to higher a creative or graphics arts department? If you have one, fire them.
Dave, if you're getting anything out of this thread, realize this. F-bodies owners, not just Firebird Firehawk owners are a passionate group of people. Forgive us if we feel like we have gotten kicked while we were down. First they cancelled the f-bodies, then it takes them 8 years to bring about new models, then it's only the camaro, and now they are going to badge a four door sedan a Firehawk????
Sorry if this bothers you, but if it does, maybe you should reconsider your sponsorship here because this is your target audience for aftermarket parts and equipment.
It really makes you think that they had a huuuge supply of Firehawk branded chochkies sitting around and figured out a way to get rid of them.
Do you guys need to higher a creative or graphics arts department? If you have one, fire them.
Dave, if you're getting anything out of this thread, realize this. F-bodies owners, not just Firebird Firehawk owners are a passionate group of people. Forgive us if we feel like we have gotten kicked while we were down. First they cancelled the f-bodies, then it takes them 8 years to bring about new models, then it's only the camaro, and now they are going to badge a four door sedan a Firehawk????
Sorry if this bothers you, but if it does, maybe you should reconsider your sponsorship here because this is your target audience for aftermarket parts and equipment.
09-22-2008, 02:57 PM
#115
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (5)
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Melrose, MA
Posts: 1,196
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
That car looks terrible, and the whole idea is trash.... May seem immature but Im not going into the "mature" rant about how the idea is just terrible and will flop. People here have already done that. Id love to know what Firehawk "owners" past or current that you talked to that let this travesty unfold...
All I can say is no more SLP stuff for me, and wheres that petition. Sign me up.
EDIT : Nice to know also that the guy who is behind it is now bashing Firehawk owners for their opinions, which are entirely negative. Sorry, cant lie man...
All I can say is no more SLP stuff for me, and wheres that petition. Sign me up.
EDIT : Nice to know also that the guy who is behind it is now bashing Firehawk owners for their opinions, which are entirely negative. Sorry, cant lie man...
09-22-2008, 03:00 PM
#116
TECH Apprentice
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: hewitt, nj
Posts: 301
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
To everyone - provide constructive feedback - don't bash. When you bash someone/ something, your comments seem weak and unprofessional.
To SLP,
I've bought many parts from your company over the years. I've been to your racing events at Englishtown. I've raced with many of your employees. I've visited your location in NJ several times. I was given a tour of your facility, dyno rooms etc and was blown away.
I have bought parts from you for the following cars:
1997 Pontiac Firebird V6 - mine
1996 Pontiac Trans Am - mine
1998 Chevy Corvette - mom's
2000 Chevy Corvette - mom's
Looking at everything I have written above, I've had a considerable amount of exposure to your company over the years.
I understand you are a business and want to make money. I understand the decision is already made.
I hope you accept my feedback in the vein it is intended.
As for the car being called a Firehawk - I really do not like it. The name Firehawk, to me, should be for an F-Body only. Firehawk was the pinical of performance in the f-body world to me. Using this name on a G8 seems to take away from specialness (is that even a word?) of it.
I would have really liked to see a different name created.
As you may know, I have been in the V6 world for a VERY long time and am a HUGE supporter of the V6. I am really not a fan of seeing a V6 version getting the name Firehawk. It seems to really take away from the vision of pinacle performance level of a Firehawk... when it is a v6 model.
I've said my peace. I hope you take it into consideration. I accept that you are a business and want to make money. In my opinion.... there might have been an opportunity to make MORE money with something as simple as a different name.
To SLP,
I've bought many parts from your company over the years. I've been to your racing events at Englishtown. I've raced with many of your employees. I've visited your location in NJ several times. I was given a tour of your facility, dyno rooms etc and was blown away.
I have bought parts from you for the following cars:
1997 Pontiac Firebird V6 - mine
1996 Pontiac Trans Am - mine
1998 Chevy Corvette - mom's
2000 Chevy Corvette - mom's
Looking at everything I have written above, I've had a considerable amount of exposure to your company over the years.
I understand you are a business and want to make money. I understand the decision is already made.
I hope you accept my feedback in the vein it is intended.
As for the car being called a Firehawk - I really do not like it. The name Firehawk, to me, should be for an F-Body only. Firehawk was the pinical of performance in the f-body world to me. Using this name on a G8 seems to take away from specialness (is that even a word?) of it.
I would have really liked to see a different name created.
As you may know, I have been in the V6 world for a VERY long time and am a HUGE supporter of the V6. I am really not a fan of seeing a V6 version getting the name Firehawk. It seems to really take away from the vision of pinacle performance level of a Firehawk... when it is a v6 model.
I've said my peace. I hope you take it into consideration. I accept that you are a business and want to make money. In my opinion.... there might have been an opportunity to make MORE money with something as simple as a different name.
09-22-2008, 03:01 PM
#117
TECH Apprentice
iTrader: (7)
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Royse City, Texas
Posts: 393
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
There has already been a Grand Prix WS6. WS6 is just an option code for a performance package. The Grand Prix Comp G was option code WS6. It's not a Firebird specific option code, just a Pontiac specific code.
09-22-2008, 03:03 PM
#118
For being a so-called Firehawk enthusiast - you don't know much about the history of the GM assembly line and the Firehawk. The Firehawk was originally made on SLP's assembly line, never GM's - The Firehawk will never be made on GM's assembly line.
Second, you obviously can't read well as the brochure talks about Pavement Pounding Performance and then in the last line our "SC" Supercharged version is mentioned. The new Firehawk is far from an appearance package.
Regards,
David
Second, you obviously can't read well as the brochure talks about Pavement Pounding Performance and then in the last line our "SC" Supercharged version is mentioned. The new Firehawk is far from an appearance package.
Regards,
David
) went to SLP for modification but that I am willing to bet that ALL G8 firehawks wont. That if you would sell out the name to the point of putting it on a V6 car that I wouldnt put it past you letting Pontiac put stickers and wheels on a standard assembly line produced G8 and call it a FIREHAWK. And PLLLEEEEEAAAASSSSSE tell us all about the pavment pounding performance the V6 firehawk G8 will offer...I missed that in my rereading of the brochure.
