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Old 03-12-2010, 04:58 PM
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Ballpark figure? And would it be much more to just get it stroked while it's out? I plan on getting heads and a new intake manifold hopefully before next year. But anyone here get their bottom end forged? I really have no idea on the cost. I'd love to be at 500+rwhp NA and over 700+rwhp with a 200 shot. I do plan on getting the drivetrain beefed up before I track it.

I'd call but I don't want to waste there time until I have money in hand.
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Originally Posted by danieloneil01
Ballpark figure? And would it be much more to just get it stroked while it's out? I plan on getting heads and a new intake manifold hopefully before next year. But anyone here get their bottom end forged? I really have no idea on the cost. I'd love to be at 500+rwhp NA and over 700+rwhp with a 200 shot. I do plan on getting the drivetrain beefed up before I track it.

I'd call but I don't want to waste there time until I have money in hand.
I'm not gonna be much help, but you need to price pistons and rods, and bearings, and machine work for just forging. If you want to stroke it, add a crank to the list. I'm planning on doing forged rods and pistons in the next year or so. No plans to stroke though. Cranks are not cheap.
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It is like anything else,you can go relatively cheap with an Eagle setup with some JE or whatever pistons,or you can go the extreme route like i did and go Callies,which is very expensive,my crankshaft alone was $2600.00.Most people on this board have mid to high budgets.You can also go the used shortblock route,there are a lot of deals out there on good used stuff.
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Roughly $3K for a nice forged/ assembled bottom end, maybe more, depending on parts selection. Stroker crank is going to be more money, and then you will want heads to support it.

You know mine is sitting at SNL right now having this done right? All told, complete forged iron 370 with PRC 227 heads, installed and tuned - right around $6500. The plan is to make over 500 at the wheels for now, then drop the compression and add a Harrops 2300 in a year or so.

The good part about it is that used LS2 parts (that aren't broken) get a premium on here, so you can recoupe some of that money.
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Hivoltagedriver, if it's black then it was in a garage and not outside with the other cars. Unless I just missed it.


Sorry for stupid questions but I take it that means you went with a whole new motor? Since you say 370 iron block? Corndog is going the same direction and said he'll have his in this weekend, maybe. So I'm very curious what he puts down. But he's hoping for 520 (if I remember correctly). I would love an extra 100 hp at all times with a 200 shot for just ***** and giggles.

I might just copy both of you.


Are your heads ported too?
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Mine was in the garage a couple of buildings down. We started with a new iron block, a used LS2 crank, and all new internals otherwise. I am hoping for 520ish also. The heads are the CNC'd PRC 227's - same ones Corndog is using I believe. He made 502 on his heads/ cam LS2 through cats before breaking a piston.
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i have about $4k assembled, in my forged short block
eagle rods, diamond pistons, stock crank, steel top rings, ARP studed mains/rods, clevites, double roller chain, ls7 lifters,etc as im sure im leaving stuff out
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Still undecided but it's either


Iron 370 forged and later procharger

or

Stroke it big + forge and spray the **** out of it
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stroke the SOB and call steve.
i have about 4k in mine and i don't regret it one damn bit.
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Originally Posted by danieloneil01
Still undecided but it's either


Iron 370 forged and later procharger

or

Stroke it big + forge and spray the **** out of it


IMHO, Iron 370 forged and boost. Repeatable power without filling a bottle and awesome fuel economy when your just cruising!
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just order a built short block iron 370 from HKE and do the rest yourself..thats what i did....
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I would but I don't know **** about engines. But I'm probably going to go big in a year or so. If a lawsuit ever pays out or my wife lets me. I told her that it won't be cheap and asked her what expensive was. She said 5k and I laughed for a good 10 secs. I told her the price and she falcon punched my ***. I'm going to get an iron 370 and twin turbo it with atleast a 100 shot to help spool. I've always wanted turbos. I'm thinking that the engine + turbos + fuel system = 20k plus upgraded drivetrain would put it in the 23k range. I'd probably at that time would need to go TH400 route along with a roll cage.

I just love the sound of turbos and the amount of high end power they make. Plus hearing and seeing this car just give me wood.

If you somehow never seen this video the in car view is a LAMBO and watch it get murdered.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vO6MgKrUs_c



Or I could just get a cheap *** drag car like a RX7 or something else that's really light and just stick a LS7 in it and call it a day.

What would you do?

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daniel, if your just looking to forge piston and rods, you can get some nice pistons and rods for about $1500, our stock ls1 crank can handle 1000hp....imo if your not pushing 1000+rwhp the stock crank will work just fine. my buddy had that setup, forged pistons/rods, stock crank, and his NA rwhp was 460 and with a 250 shot he pumped out almost 700rwhp.



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