Go Back   LS1TECH > VEHICLE SPECIFIC FORUMS > Pontiac GTO 2004-2006
Sign in using an external account
Register Forgot Password?
Search

Pontiac GTO 2004-2006 The Modern Goat

My friends want to race!

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 04-26-2012, 04:44 PM   #1
Staging Lane
 
Trader Rating: 0
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Fort Huachuca, AZ
Posts: 53
Default My friends want to race!

So my friend just sold his 2000 Mustang Gt with cold air intake, cat back exhaust, and a throttle body for a 2008 Mustang GT/CS with a cold air intake and tune. I raced his 2000 Gt and completely destroyed it, my friends v6 firebird with headers and ram air killed it too, but I was wondering how my 04 A4 GTO with Long Tube Headers and Cat back exhaust would fair against his new mustang. We will probably race a couple times from a stop and a roll. What do you all think the outcome will be assuming we both Drive perfectly, his mustang is a 5 speed btw.
Jake8493 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-26-2012, 04:55 PM   #2
Teching In
 
V8EATR's Avatar
 
Trader Rating: 0
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 36
Default

if he is stock you will win. Once he get a cai/tune and some exhaust work he might give ya a run though.
__________________
06' GTO-SOLD
V8EATR is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-26-2012, 05:04 PM   #3
TECH Senior Member
 
ULTIMATEORANGESS's Avatar
 
Trader Rating: 4
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: eatontown,nj
Posts: 9,890
Default

youre faster. he might hook better but you should run him down. a stall with sticky tires would make him cry.




from a roll you should with not much effort.
__________________
99 hugger orange ss. a4 slp y2y
built motor,trans,rear, susp. ect.

415/391 MD.
more stuff coming soon!

QS m6 05 GTO. LPE CAI, magnaflow catback. ported 243s, ls3 cam. tune. 345/340 stock manifolds.MD. its for sale.
ULTIMATEORANGESS is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 04-26-2012, 06:10 PM   #4
12 Second Club
 
breze84's Avatar
 
Trader Rating: 0
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Chicago, IL
Posts: 796
Default

Not even a question if you will win....
__________________
01 Z06 Red/MR Interior "Forged LS7 427, Stage 6 RPM Auto Swap and more!!!" 600/575
01 Z06 Black/MR Interior 475/430 "It's Pretty Quick"

breze84 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-26-2012, 08:48 PM   #5
Staging Lane
 
Trader Rating: 0
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Fort Huachuca, AZ
Posts: 53
Default

I don't know if he is got the Tune yet but he definitely has the cold air intake
Jake8493 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-27-2012, 12:26 PM   #6
Teching In
 
V8EATR's Avatar
 
Trader Rating: 0
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 36
Default

a tune is a 20+whp gain on those cars. They run 18* WOT timing from the factory (tuned for 87 octane) and I ran 31* on mine on 93. I ran a 12.9@107 in decent air with intake/tune/offroad x and street tires.
__________________
06' GTO-SOLD
V8EATR is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-29-2012, 10:11 PM   #7
On The Tree
 
gmantheman's Avatar
 
Trader Rating: 0
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Smog Nazi land
Posts: 104
Default

It will be a close race. I owned a 2006 Mustang GT with intake, tune, mild cams, UDP and 4.10s and I was able to run neck and neck with an 06 GTO that had a tune at the strip. Both of us had sticky tires.
__________________
2004 GTO
Stock manifold, cats, X pipe, comp 222/222 cam
Tuned by CMS.
gmantheman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-30-2012, 10:42 AM   #8
Staging Lane
 
Trader Rating: 0
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Fort Huachuca, AZ
Posts: 53
Default

That's a lot of work to just keep up with an 06 with a tune
Jake8493 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-30-2012, 12:08 PM   #9
12 Second Club
 
impulsegoat's Avatar
 
Trader Rating: 4
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Ohio
Posts: 399
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jake8493 View Post
that's a lot of work to just keep up with an 06 with a tune
+1...
__________________
Pacesetter, Borla, Svede, Ported TB & LS6, Custom Grind Cam, YankSS3600, Derale Atomic Cooler, Built Trans, C5 wheels w/ Nitto DR's
1.70 60' 11.95@113.95
impulsegoat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-30-2012, 12:32 PM   #10
On The Tree
 
gmantheman's Avatar
 
Trader Rating: 0
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Smog Nazi land
Posts: 104
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jake8493 View Post
That's a lot of work to just keep up with an 06 with a tune
True but you have to figure that a stock mustang will be putting down about 100 less hp. Even with my mods I was putting down 320-325 hp/ 319 tq and the GTO was probably putting down close to 375.
__________________
2004 GTO
Stock manifold, cats, X pipe, comp 222/222 cam
Tuned by CMS.
gmantheman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-30-2012, 02:11 PM   #11
Teching In
 
V8EATR's Avatar
 
Trader Rating: 0
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 36
Default

^ hey, its 3vs197 from s197 forum. Yea mine with nsr cams, full bolt ons and 4.10's ran a 12.60@110 with 330/319. 1.73 short time on street tires. Like I said, car looked and sounded good but would take an awful lot to take down an LS2 GTO.
__________________
06' GTO-SOLD
V8EATR is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-30-2012, 03:18 PM   #12
Staging Lane
 
Trader Rating: 0
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Fort Huachuca, AZ
Posts: 53
Default

mine is just an ls1 though. with headers and a catback
Jake8493 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-30-2012, 03:21 PM   #13
On The Tree
 
gmantheman's Avatar
 
Trader Rating: 0
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Smog Nazi land
Posts: 104
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by V8EATR View Post
^ hey, its 3vs197 from s197 forum. Yea mine with nsr cams, full bolt ons and 4.10's ran a 12.60@110 with 330/319. 1.73 short time on street tires. Like I said, car looked and sounded good but would take an awful lot to take down an LS2 GTO.
That's not me but I know who you are talking about. I myself didn't believe he cut a 1.73 60' on Firestones. I agree that it does take a lot to take down an LS2 but stock for stock they about even with an LS1.
Sadly my Mustang never got into the 12s. Best time was 13.185 at 103.99 and that's with a 1.7XX 60' on both E.T streets and M&H
__________________
2004 GTO
Stock manifold, cats, X pipe, comp 222/222 cam
Tuned by CMS.

Last edited by gmantheman; 04-30-2012 at 03:30 PM..
gmantheman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-30-2012, 03:24 PM   #14
On The Tree
 
gmantheman's Avatar
 
Trader Rating: 0
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Smog Nazi land
Posts: 104
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jake8493 View Post
mine is just an ls1 though. with headers and a catback
It will be a driver's race.
__________________
2004 GTO
Stock manifold, cats, X pipe, comp 222/222 cam
Tuned by CMS.
gmantheman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-01-2012, 03:44 PM   #15
12 Second Club
 
impulsegoat's Avatar
 
Trader Rating: 4
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Ohio
Posts: 399
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by gmantheman View Post
It will be a driver's race.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jake8493 View Post
So my friend just sold his 2000 Mustang Gt with cold air intake, cat back exhaust, and a throttle body for a 2008 Mustang GT/CS with a cold air intake and tune. I raced his 2000 Gt and completely destroyed it, my friends v6 firebird with headers and ram air killed it too, but I was wondering how my 04 A4 GTO with Long Tube Headers and Cat back exhaust would fair against his new mustang. We will probably race a couple times from a stop and a roll. What do you all think the outcome will be assuming we both Drive perfectly, his mustang is a 5 speed btw.
Now that we are perfectly clear on whats racing what, the GTO with LT's will win hands down. Now if it were a new 5.0 it would be a totally different story. Run him and post up how it goes. My guess is 3-4 cars from any type of race he wants.
__________________
Pacesetter, Borla, Svede, Ported TB & LS6, Custom Grind Cam, YankSS3600, Derale Atomic Cooler, Built Trans, C5 wheels w/ Nitto DR's
1.70 60' 11.95@113.95
impulsegoat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-01-2012, 04:08 PM   #16
On The Tree
 
gmantheman's Avatar
 
Trader Rating: 0
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Smog Nazi land
Posts: 104
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by impulsegoat View Post
Now that we are perfectly clear on whats racing what, the GTO with LT's will win hands down. Now if it were a new 5.0 it would be a totally different story. Run him and post up how it goes. My guess is 3-4 cars from any type of race he wants.
I think it will be a drivers race. Stock for stock an 04 GTO and 05-10 Mustang GT should be fairly even. Both run about mid 13s stock. L/T should be good for about 15-20 hp but an intake and tune will be good for at least 25 hp on the mustang.
__________________
2004 GTO
Stock manifold, cats, X pipe, comp 222/222 cam
Tuned by CMS.
gmantheman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-01-2012, 04:19 PM   #17
12 Second Club
 
impulsegoat's Avatar
 
Trader Rating: 4
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Ohio
Posts: 399
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by gmantheman View Post
I think it will be a drivers race. Stock for stock an 04 GTO and 05-10 Mustang GT should be fairly even. Both run about mid 13s stock. L/T should be good for about 15-20 hp but an intake and tune will be good for at least 25 hp on the mustang.
So your saying they are even stock for stock, and that the cai is a bigger power gain on the mustang than the LT's are on the GTO? Seems a bit off to me. I can agree to disagree until he actually runs him and lets us know though.
__________________
Pacesetter, Borla, Svede, Ported TB & LS6, Custom Grind Cam, YankSS3600, Derale Atomic Cooler, Built Trans, C5 wheels w/ Nitto DR's
1.70 60' 11.95@113.95
impulsegoat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-01-2012, 07:58 PM   #18
On The Tree
 
gmantheman's Avatar
 
Trader Rating: 0
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Smog Nazi land
Posts: 104
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by impulsegoat View Post
So your saying they are even stock for stock, and that the cai is a bigger power gain on the mustang than the LT's are on the GTO? Seems a bit off to me. I can agree to disagree until he actually runs him and lets us know though.
CAI and tune is a decent gain for the mustang. My mustang with just a UDP dynoed around 275-280/ 280/285 depending the dyno. With a CAI and tune it dynoed 298/309. Just a CAI on a mustang will net an almost 0 gain. In fact only a few CAIs can be used without a tune.
__________________
2004 GTO
Stock manifold, cats, X pipe, comp 222/222 cam
Tuned by CMS.
gmantheman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-02-2012, 11:17 AM   #19
Teching In
 
V8EATR's Avatar
 
Trader Rating: 0
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 36
Default

lol people still don't believe I ran a 1.73 short time with Fuzions. Not my average by any means but I did it. I averaged probably a 1.80ish. And yes a tune on a 05+ GT is huge. Headers aren't worth **** on those cars though. I was able to give my 05 12 more *'s of timing on pump gas, huge SOTP difference. But I gotta give it to the LS car with LT's though.
__________________
06' GTO-SOLD
V8EATR is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-02-2012, 12:39 PM   #20
On The Tree
 
gmantheman's Avatar
 
Trader Rating: 0
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Smog Nazi land
Posts: 104
Default

^I thought in your last post that you were implying that I was 3vs197. Both 3vs197 and V8EATER are familiar screen names at S197forum. I am the one who totaled the mustang at the track
gmantheman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-02-2012, 12:39 PM
LS1Tech
Pontiac Firebird




Paid Advertisement
Reply


Tags
04, 05, 2000, 2004, body, cai, catback, gt, gto, headers, lt, mustang, pipe, race, running, throttle, tune


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off



Join Ls1Tech

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:07 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7 AC1
Copyright ©2000 - 2015, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Advertising - Terms of Service - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service - JOBS
Emails & Contact Details