Just about ready to sell my Goat...
06-22-2016, 07:24 PM
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Just about ready to sell my Goat... I take such good care of this car and have had problem after problem. It is turning into a money pit. I love my GTO but it's taking it's toll on me. A problem I am having and have had for quite sometime now is between 60-62mph my steering wheel will violently shake. ON very rare occasion the wheel will shake in the low 70's. Weird thing is, at times it will become a bit less severe the more I am in the car. It may simply be coincidence but I noticed it has done it the worst when it is a little cold out. EVERYONE keeps telling me it needs to be balanced. No exaggeration it has been balanced 8 or 9x and is still there. I am desperate to the point for an answer to this I would gladly send any one of you $100.00 money order if you are right on what this is. Please throw some ideas out there for me on what this could be. Because I do want to keep this car but I need to catch a break with it.
Thank you, Doug.
Thank you, Doug.
06-22-2016, 08:40 PM
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While cruising or Braking?
If cruising, I'd start with the tie-rod ends, check the wheel bearings as well. Rotate the tires front to rear if you don't have staggered tire sizes. Other causes could be Radius rod bushings
If while braking, replace the rotors..
If cruising, I'd start with the tie-rod ends, check the wheel bearings as well. Rotate the tires front to rear if you don't have staggered tire sizes. Other causes could be Radius rod bushings
If while braking, replace the rotors..
06-22-2016, 11:19 PM
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Highly prone to this. Tire choice, pressure, wear patterns, alignment, balance... many things will contribute to the issue.
You need a professional to go through all the joints, bushings and dampers.
If all is good, you may need to try a new or different set of tires and have sufficient damping to control tire contact to slow this from happening again. Tire rotation helps too.
Troubleshooting may not be easy, things change under load and may not be noticeable when looking at it in a static position. The dynamic end result of what's happening may help the diagnosis.
You need a professional to go through all the joints, bushings and dampers.
If all is good, you may need to try a new or different set of tires and have sufficient damping to control tire contact to slow this from happening again. Tire rotation helps too.
Troubleshooting may not be easy, things change under load and may not be noticeable when looking at it in a static position. The dynamic end result of what's happening may help the diagnosis.
06-23-2016, 12:16 AM
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Considering you've already had the wheels balanced so many times (and I'm assuming by different shops/machines as well?), and assuming you've done (or had done) some basic front end checks to look for obviously bad components (steering or bushings), then my next guess would be this:
It might not be obvious at lower speeds, but that could certainly cause the issues.
Also, as mentioned above, it could be related to a bad tire/tires. I've had that happen once before as well.
It might not be obvious at lower speeds, but that could certainly cause the issues.
Also, as mentioned above, it could be related to a bad tire/tires. I've had that happen once before as well.
06-23-2016, 01:34 AM
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Wow, can't thank you guys enough for the replies. I really appreciate it. The most common word I Have heard from my friends that are into cars is bushings. Also some of the other possible ideas are things I definitely didn't think of but do make sense. Well thanks to you guys I am definitely more encouraged. It may take time but I will get these things checked out. Once again, thank you everyone!!!!!
06-23-2016, 11:05 AM
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I have this and it sucks.... And I only have 31k on my 04.
...the front is all poly, new outer tie rods, new tires, professional alignment, and still have it. I need to have the tires road force balanced next.
...the front is all poly, new outer tie rods, new tires, professional alignment, and still have it. I need to have the tires road force balanced next.
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06-23-2016, 08:32 PM
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I just got done doing all poly bushings in the front and back, new tie rod ends, new rotors/pads and a full alignment. Made a world of difference. The only thing I need to do now is get a new set of wheels and tires!
06-23-2016, 10:44 PM
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Sometimes, expensive wheels (truly round and balanced), along with good tires will make a big difference. Road force to within 5 lbs if able. Make the shop work and turn the tire until they achieve this. Some are lazy and will leave it spinning at a even higher load or force. If you can get it below 10 or 12lbs, that would be great. 0-5 lbs is best Imo. You want well made wheels, many aren't today, unless you are spending some cash. Chinese wheels are a major concern, Taiwanese wheels are usually much better.
06-27-2016, 01:04 PM
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huh, Im actually having a similar issue, but it didnt present itself until I switched to 18's (beyern rapps) I wonder if the hub size is different enough to allow the wheel to be off center a bit. Nearly all of my driving is 50 and under so I hadnt noticed it until I got on a hwy and got over 60Mph. I figured I just needed an alignment but wasnt going to get in a hurry because I wanted to replace the front springs and shocks this summer then align it. I barely put 50 miles on this thing in a week because my commute is so short.
06-28-2016, 07:02 AM
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huh, Im actually having a similar issue, but it didnt present itself until I switched to 18's (beyern rapps) I wonder if the hub size is different enough to allow the wheel to be off center a bit. Nearly all of my driving is 50 and under so I hadnt noticed it until I got on a hwy and got over 60Mph. I figured I just needed an alignment but wasnt going to get in a hurry because I wanted to replace the front springs and shocks this summer then align it. I barely put 50 miles on this thing in a week because my commute is so short.
06-28-2016, 11:51 AM
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06-28-2016, 12:34 PM
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I did a quick search after posting that and came up with 72.6-69.5MM hub rings, let me know if you find similar info. there is a set of those on ebay at the moment for 13 shipped so hopefully thats the right size.