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Old 02-10-2008, 02:46 PM
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Alcohol Injection Systems, LLC would like to personally address and answer any questions members may have about the use and effects of water alcohol methanol injection with forced induction applications as well as naturally aspirated and nitrous applications.

Let us know what your questions are so we can help better inform everyone about water methanol injection.

Have a question and want to speak to someone directly about water alcohol/methanol injection. Give us a call directly at 1.801.447.2559 or email us directly at info@alcoholinjectionsystems.com

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Thats a clean setup you guys have on that GTO on your site..what kind of gains are seen with dual nozzels vs a single setup??
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Originally Posted by ls 2 goat
Thats a clean setup you guys have on that GTO on your site..what kind of gains are seen with dual nozzels vs a single setup??
The additional nozzle (dual nozzle) are not necessarily used to increase horsepower but rather to support the engine with the proper amount of water methanol needed for an engine its size and power rating. Furthermore, by running two smaller nozzles rather then one large nozzle, we can create a much finer spray pattern for better atomization. Our rule of thumb is anything making over 650 horsepower we will recommend running dual nozzles so that we can stay away from running one very large nozzle.

This GTO has initially posted 575 to the tires on 9-10lbs with methanol. This was untuned for the methanol running very rich with conservative timing. Customer is waiting to get the funds together for a new retune and should see 620+ at the tires with a new tune.

More detials of this GTO can be found on our site by clicking on the following link

http://www.alcoholinjectionsystems.c.../articles.html

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Thanks for the help..
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I'm interested in the cooling aspects when running NA. During last summer in 90+ degree heat I was running consistent 12.3xs but as the temperature drop my ETs also dropped ...dipping to 11.7xs in November. So how much help would I see during the summer. The other question is, since this is a semi-daily driver April through November how much methanol would I need per week? I don't really want to have separate street and track tunes.
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Originally Posted by ls 2 goat
Thanks for the help..
Sure thing. Let us us know if you have any other questions or how we can help.
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Originally Posted by GTO1_OHIO
I'm interested in the cooling aspects when running NA. During last summer in 90+ degree heat I was running consistent 12.3xs but as the temperature drop my ETs also dropped ...dipping to 11.7xs in November. So how much help would I see during the summer. The other question is, since this is a semi-daily driver April through November how much methanol would I need per week? I don't really want to have separate street and track tunes.
Hi GTO1_OHIO,

For naturally aspirated applications such as yours, water methanol injection offers the benefit of increases in air density (lowering engine air charge temperatures). This by far more beneficial for users in warmer climates such as you. During the hotter months you can expect the water methanol injection to lower your air charge temps 35-45 degree's. While this isn't as dramatic as our forced induction applications. Its like the difference of driving your car during summer vs the colder winter months.

Additionally, its a substantial octane enhancement to help push the onset of detonation further away thereby allowing you to run more aggressive timing curves then normally before without.

Hope this answers your questions. Let me know if you have any other questions or how I can help.
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Would it be worth my while to add this? I am running a 150 shot and mods and #s in my sig.

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Originally Posted by ArklaTexan
Would it be worth my while to add this? I am running a 150 shot and mods and #s in my sig.

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Hi Daniel,

Yes, you could benefit from the use of a water methanol injection system as well. How much timing are you retarding ignition for the 150 shot. I'm assuming this is a wet shot. A water methanol injection system would give you gig jump in octane

When you fire off your nitrous system it makes the combustion process more unstable and speeds it up. Thereby, requiring some added ignition timing retard added. In addition it spikes cylinder pressure and cylinder temperatures way above normal. I'm assuming your running a wet shot. However, for those who are running a smaller dry shot, this dry shot is also leaning out your air/fuel mixture.

Water methanol injection would help stabilize and cool the combustion process. Water is an effective anti-detonate. It simply slows the burn down of the fuel. Essentially working as an octane booster. Methanol on the other hand is a high octane fuel. It will burn as part of the combustion process and in your case can add some additional needed fuel when the nitrous is activated. Remember you can always fluctuate the methanol content to bring in more or less fuel.

Hope this answers your questions. Let me know if you have any other questions or how I can help.
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If your looking for a great deal on a water methanol injection systems be sure to check out our group purchase listed here on the forum. Only good till the end of the month.

https://ls1tech.com/forums/showthrea...light=methanol

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Orders are shipping! See details below.

Were about ready to wrap up this GP tomorrow. Before ending this GP we would like everyone to get a chance to hear about it as the discounts being offered are quite substantial for members involved. Because we have listed this GP on other forums we have already meet our required number of 6 orders on other forums. Even though we have only received 3 orders from "LS1Tech Forum" we want to include these members orders into the GP therefor we are going to combine all the forum efforts and begin processing and shipping these orders.

One common problem we run into is members finding the GP a week or month later and still wanting us to offer them the same price. Unfortunately, we will not be able to offer these same prices after the group purchase has ended. Therefor, we want everyone to get the opportunity hear about it and to join in now while the group purchase discounts still apply.

Let us know if you have any questions or if you need help choosing the right system for your application.
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Have questions about using water methanol injection with your forced induction, NA or nitrous oxide application. Post your questions here or contact us directly at 1.801.447.2559 if you would like to speak with a specialist.
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you guys need a test car I have the ohio FI record holder 05 gto going for more boost this year and 9s,any help?
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Originally Posted by rcsfastmonte
you guys need a test car I have the ohio FI record holder 05 gto going for more boost this year and 9s,any help?
You hold the record and no water methanol injection. Is this a stock bottom end motor? What supercharger or turbocharger system are you running?
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Our special is wrapping up at the end of this month. If you've wanted a fender mount water methanol injection system this is a great opportunity to get in on one of our under the hood fender/firewall mount systems.

Have questions or need help, give us a call directly or post your questions here.
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Originally Posted by rcsfastmonte
you guys need a test car I have the ohio FI record holder 05 gto going for more boost this year and 9s,any help?
He needs to test on the Ohio NA GTO record holder too then. ....that would be me.

Oh and rc's got two big turbos mounted on his exhaust system...it's a custom job.
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Originally Posted by rcsfastmonte
you guys need a test car I have the ohio FI record holder 05 gto going for more boost this year and 9s,any help?
Give us a call directly at 1.801.447.2559 Ext 204 to talk about this more in detail.

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I wish i didnt miss the group purchase.
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