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Old 02-16-2009, 09:41 PM   #1
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Hey Guys, I'm looking at a handgun, probably a 1911 style in .45 ACP for home/self defense and was wondering what is considered the all around best made handgun from a quality, finish, and reliability perspective. My budget is up to $1000. I'm personally looking at Kimber models and they seem very nice but haven't actually shot one. Any opinions? Thanks!
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If your doing a home defense gun and want a kimber, I would probably go with a TLE II RL... nice gun. I have two 1911s(well ones a 2011), a Kimber Pro CDP and an STI Tactical and love them both. The CDP is my regular walking around SD gun, while the STIs for the range.

But I have to say, for home defense I use a Glock 35 with TLR-1 tac-light, loaded with Doubletap's 155gr Gold Dot (1310fps 590 ft/lbs from a 4.5"bbl)... 15 rounds of fun
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the 'best' 1911's arent going to be in the 1k range.

however, 'best' is a subjectional term, a guy might think his worn out glock 9mm is the 'best' gun out there. another might think his 3000$ customized tack driving 1911 is the 'best'.

saying that, in the >1k range, i believe kimber, and as mentioned above, STI, are going to best your most 'custom optioned' 1911's that still carry 'commercialized' prices.
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Find a reputable custom builder, give him your requirements/budget, and let him do his thing for you. Second best option; Kimber, Springfield, ParaOrdinance, or a Colt Custom Shop piece. And then tune/modify it as time and money permit. I don't personally recommend using a "race" gun like STI for personal defense. I've seen too many of the "bling" features hang up in holsters or break when you need them to work the most. You should also stay as close to original 1911 specs as you can (if thats the route you go) so that in the event you need parts, they will be readily available. As far as I know, only STI double stack mags work in STI double stack guns. I can get good single stack 1911 mags ANYWHERE.
If you do decide to go with the 1911 style gun, be ready to practice with it. It is a "single action" automatic. It will not **** and drop the hammer/firing pin on the round altogether with a trigger squeeze. This means that you will either have to; 1.keep a round in the chamber with the hammer down on it, cocking the hammer back manually when you draw. 2. round in the chamber with the hammer "cocked and locked" -total dependency on your safeties 3.empty chamber and cycle a round in when you draw. All of these require practice for proficiency.
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i doubt he'll find anyone to spec out a decent gun for 1k.

sti are best known for their race guns, i've checked out a doublestack .38 super and it was unreal (not for a protection gun though).
but they make tons of single stack frames. and the Spartan model is 600$ and it had a better fit and finish and slide action than a new colt i messed with. also, new colts are not made in the states i believe.
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I'm not usually one to do this, but here goes. Please keep in mind that I love 1911's too.

Your intentions are a bit vague, but here's my take on things. For home/self defense, with your $1k budget, buy the 18" barrel 870 Tactical for your home, and then a pistol of your choice to carry. 1911's can be CCW'd, but it is a pain compared to pieces that are built for it unless you're a pretty big guy, and a shotgun is far superior for home defense. An 870 and something like a Kahr PM9 or a Glock 27, depending on your preferences, might put you a bit over budget, but not much.
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Here is the thing, there is no reason to get a 1000 dollar gun for home defense unless you are just going to enjoy using it at the firing range and showing it off. Up close, at home defense ranges, it doesn't matter how good of a spread the gun is going to shoot and you are only going to fire one time so reliability and accuracy isn't as important as with a service gun.

I don't know how irritable Indiana is about guns... .45 ACP would be fine but I tend to want to tend to steer people to use the smallest cal to do the job in any defense situation due to liability. People have been charged with negligence just for using a gun with more power than the standard cal of that of the local police. It has happened and it could happen again.

If you really want a 1911 I guess Glock is out although it would save you a lot of money. They are cheap, easy to clean/fix, and dependable. Glock isn't even in the same class though. Look at the price tag and the quality of the materials! I am not a big fan of the safety on that type of gun but I would own a tactical ii Kimber in a heartbeat. They are great guns. I just think its a lot of $$$$ for a sock drawer pistol! You didn't seem to indicate that you would be using it for anything else.
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Why a .45 for IN HOME self defense?
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self defense in home = shotgun. period.

kimbers are nice guns though, but if you get one make sure you run plenty of practice through it to get it broken in...they tend to be finicky at first
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^^^ My home defense is a mossberg 500 12 gauge. I just have some 1.5 oz shot 6 shot shells I believe. May be wrong... but it doesn't matter if I shoot someone in my home with it, they won't live.
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I love my Glock and my 1911 but if I have to pick between one of the two in a home defense situation I will grab my Glock ten times out of ten. Glock always, ALWAYS goes boom. My 1911 on the other hand has had a few jam's almost every time I shoot. My Glock has 15 rounds and my 1911 has 8.

In all honesty I would rather have my shotty over them all.
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Trenchgun>1911 IMO
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I guess I should be a little more specific. I've been shopping for a handgun for home defense. I have no intention to carry it on my person, but would consider keeping it in the glovebox of the car (with a proper permit of course). I don't want a shot gun or any large weapon, because I feel I couldn't draw it from a secluded location fast enough if necessary and it seems it would be unwieldy in a small/enclosed space or close quarters.

That being said, in the near future, I will have some extra $$ for this, and much like upgrading from an F-body to a Corvette, I viewed going from a Glock to something like a Kimber. Both get the job done but one is much better looking with a better finish and that's the one that I want. I don't necessarily want a .45. I personally like the feel of 9mm but most have said it lacks the stopping power. I like the .40 but Kimber doesn't offer that. So, that brings me to polling the board from members who are more experienced that I am about a nice handgun.

I was seriously considering the glock, but the Kimbers just look soo much nicer, if they are considered as reliable, then its worth the extra money to me for appearance and customization options.
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my personal favorite a kimber desert warrior a little pricey though $1500 and it only has a 7rd mag though
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If you are looking at possible in home use I doubt that you'd need better than a 2" grouping at 20+ yards since I can't imagine that you'd have a 20 yard shooting solution in your house.

Having said that, you will probably shoot nearly as well with a standard Colt as you would a competition piece with a match grade frame and slide. Unless you are an expert marksman with a pistol I think that 1k for a .45 would be a waste of money in my opinion.

I looked at pricey 1911's and settled on an H&K USP .45 instead. Less expensive, great reputation, and next to my Glock Model 20 it's a workhorse.

I'd suggest a look at Wilson Combat if you're hellbent on a 1911. They have models that can group 1.5" at 25 yards and you can get a custom piece.
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Personally I have a Taurus PT1911, with Kimber Desert Warrior grips and I use Kimber mags. I have well over 3000 rounds and never had a hiccup with even the crappiest ammo. Shoots great, feels great, and didn't break the bank. Mine was under $600 including tax and a box of good ammo, you can get stainless ones for just a bit more but they weren't out when I bought mine.

Not as accurate as my marine buddies Kimber, but I've seen his have several stovepipes and failure to feeds. Supposed to be just because of the tight tolerances new, haven't talked to him in a while to see if it cleared up but I'm sure it will.

Wilson combat is another great company to look into as stated above my post.

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Springfield Armory makes some great 1911's, go check them out. I've got a Mil-Spec that is customized and has seen over 17,000 factory rounds through it, and it still runs like a champ.
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well im a 1911 guy as well. I own a kimber, and to be dead honest with you, I wont buy another. I paid 900 dollars for a commander sized 1911 from kimber. Its a gorgeous pistol, shoots damn great when it shoots, but has jammed a **** load. Ive had to swap mags, adjust the extractor tension, and swap recoil springs to get it to run right. Most 1911 people will tell you,,oh no big deal thats about par for the course. I say to hell with that, a 900 dollar gun ought to run right out of the box. If your dead set on a 45 PISTOL for the house, I say go polymer and get a xd or glock .I dont like glocks but they have a hell of a track record. If I were to try and get into a 1911 for budget, I would look into a springfield armory mil spec or govt model 1911. Ive shot a trp and it was super nice. Of course the mil spec and equal models arent real cheap, but cheaper than most semi custom pistols (sti etc). If I had to do it all over again, i would have saved a little more coin and got a dan wesson classic bob tail.
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45 caliber is too powerful for home defense... You shoot the intruder then your neighbor across the street too... Tone it down a bit and get hollow point bullets...

This is what I have for home protection.. 357 magnum snub S&W loaded with hollow points... Very reliable, won't jamb and will stop a brother dead in his tracks.. Accurate and easy to manage in short range situations too..
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holy mother of jesus on a pogo stick, I am going to do my BEST not to start a WAR after the above comment...too powerfull..are you serious? All Im going to say is do your research..I dont even want to get into 45 acp ballistics etc...do your research...and for the love of God , dont get a 38 for your particular purpose..Im about to self combust here.
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