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Old 04-28-2012, 12:13 PM   #1
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I know you guys have seen those 200k+ mile cars that say their all original and think bs. Well my dad has a 99 Sierra with 215xxx miles and it is al original. It runs amazing, it has had only 2 sets of shocks, 4 tranny services(every 50k) oil changes, a few air filters, 1 set of brakes, 2 sets of tires(on it's 3rd), and 1 battery. That's it, everything else is original and in perfect working condition. Seats are power leather, leather is NOT cracked or excessively worn either, power part still works and the heated part will melt your asshairs together. The only issue right now is one of the cats is bad, all the honeycomb stuff inside broke up so it throws a cel for that and one bedside is rusty. The 4wd works perfect, tranny shifts awesome. And it is used as a truck, he's pulled 3/4 ton turf stuff. Everything from 5-10k pound loads. Last summer we drove from St. Louis Missouri to Lake Havasu Arizona(BEAUTIFUL drive, I'd do it again in a heartbeat) to go to the Advantage Boat plant to pick up a 27' Victory. And I'm unsure of the weight of the boat/trailer but I know it was close to 9k. It pulled it fantastic through the hills and everything. It didn't skip a beat. Anyone else think this is odd a truck with this many miles runs as good as it does and almost everything is original? I thought so. Especially when my step brother's 05 F-150 is on it's second set of brakes at 90k miles and 2nd set of tires. The motor has random ticks and such. The 5.3 in my dad's truck is very solid and sound. A/C blows ice cold and everything still. And we have an 09 Pontiac G6 with almost 90k with 1 set of tires 1 air filter and 1 set of brakes and that's it. Except oil changes. I've heard a lot of stories of people always having issues with GM stuff. Yet with good maintenance we've had EXCELLANT expierences with them. What do you guys think?
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I think the simplicity of the SBC helps out a lot in the durability department. Basic overhead valve setup.

The jeep 4.0 is the same design and those too are known to dip well into the 200-300k range. I'm at 200k now.

Gotta love old tried and true technology.
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Can't edit posts on my phone forgot to ask; has your dad owned the truck it's whole life?
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Why does it seem like trucks always last longer with less problems?
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Because a truck is made to do work, and most trucks dont end up doing that much work in their life.
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My 1997 C2500 had 357,000 miles on the original drivetrain when I got rid of it.
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Sure there are some good ones put together for any automaker but that is just one person and one example. Talk the the vast majority of GM and they wont say the same. Now talk to the vast majority of Toyota owners and they will probably have similar stories to yours.
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I had a 2000 model 2500 (old body style) truck. It ran like a clock when I sold it with 211000 on it. Only maintnance things did I have to put a wrench too it. I've got an 07 that has more problems than I can count on my hands. Only has 70000 on it.
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I know you guys have seen those 200k+ mile cars that say their all original and think bs. Well my dad has a 99 Sierra with 215xxx miles and it is al original. It runs amazing, it has had only 2 sets of shocks, 4 tranny services(every 50k) oil changes, a few air filters, 1 set of brakes, 2 sets of tires(on it's 3rd), and 1 battery. That's it, everything else is original and in perfect working condition. Seats are power leather, leather is NOT cracked or excessively worn either, power part still works and the heated part will melt your asshairs together. The only issue right now is one of the cats is bad, all the honeycomb stuff inside broke up so it throws a cel for that and one bedside is rusty. The 4wd works perfect, tranny shifts awesome. And it is used as a truck, he's pulled 3/4 ton turf stuff. Everything from 5-10k pound loads. Last summer we drove from St. Louis Missouri to Lake Havasu Arizona(BEAUTIFUL drive, I'd do it again in a heartbeat) to go to the Advantage Boat plant to pick up a 27' Victory. And I'm unsure of the weight of the boat/trailer but I know it was close to 9k. It pulled it fantastic through the hills and everything. It didn't skip a beat. Anyone else think this is odd a truck with this many miles runs as good as it does and almost everything is original? I thought so. Especially when my step brother's 05 F-150 is on it's second set of brakes at 90k miles and 2nd set of tires. The motor has random ticks and such. The 5.3 in my dad's truck is very solid and sound. A/C blows ice cold and everything still. And we have an 09 Pontiac G6 with almost 90k with 1 set of tires 1 air filter and 1 set of brakes and that's it. Except oil changes. I've heard a lot of stories of people always having issues with GM stuff. Yet with good maintenance we've had EXCELLANT expierences with them. What do you guys think?
i had a customer with a camry with 624k miles. a friend with a awd gmc minivan with 680k, a buick with 324k
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where the big three have dominated is the full size truck segment. if they'd just put that effort into everything they designed.
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i think its all about the owner, ok well maybe 50/50 owner and manufacturer. cause if ppl beat on their cars and/or dont maintain them. they become unreliable.
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My parents have a Black '04 Z71 Suburban that they bought new, we are in 2012 and it's sitting at 142k, always garaged, not all of those are easy miles, but it's a truck. That thing is still in great condition, looks good, rides good, I think it's a nice ride, but I'll be honest, that thing is a piece of ****. Truck is on it's second motor and it also has a lot of electrical issues and other annoying quality related problems. '96 Tahoe they had before it was very similar reliability wise.

However, the Toyota FJ Cruiser we bought in '08 on the other hand has 82k on it now and has not missed a beat, just been doing the normal maintenance and it's had no problems, our Chevy's were starting to fall apart at that point.
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my earlier post mentioned customer cars.....i personally have an 85 e-350 on the original engine, but 2nd trans, with about 335k. i had a 74 chevy pickup that had about 320k on it when i sold it about 8 years ago.
my 95 taurus has 135k on everything original, and my 97 dakota has 128k on it, but on the 2nd rear, getting ready to be rebuilt again.
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Ok, I had a 07 crew cab 5.3 truck. Bought it new with 3 miles on it. traded it in 6 months ago with 420k miles on it. Stock everything but tires and one transmission. changed it out at 250k. It had the stock battery, etc. NOTHING was changed but the tires and Oil. NOTHING. It was my work truck and it lasted because I took care of it. It also towed my car from South FL to North GA and towed a few boats and jetski's around. traded it in on another 2011 crew cab 5.3 that now has 65k miles on it.


I also have a 2000 blazer with 227k miles with stock motor, trans, rear, etc. Just change oil etc.
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I know a friend who has around 210k miles on his Tahoe Z71, he has a lead foot ( never took it anywhere without going WOT) , and he's never done anything but oil change/brake pads. That's reliable IMO.
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where the big three have dominated is the full size truck segment. if they'd just put that effort into everything they designed.
This. Although Ford and GM's cars have come a LONG LONG LONG way in the past 5 years. Some of them were good cars(anything GM with the 3800 v6), others were total crap. I guess my main point is you can go buy any used Honda or Toyota and get good service out of it. With the big 3 you need to do your research and make sure you don't buy one of their turd models.

Of course the average person just goes out and buys whatever, then when their Ford Tempo is a POS they swear off domestics for life.
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03 Sierra 1500 2wd step side here. bought new off the delivery truck. Currently at 107,000 or so. A couple months ago i chanced the transmission fluid, rear end fluid, plugs, wires, fuel filter, front and rear pads, belts, and cleaned the k&n. Other than that before 100,000 i did nothing put tires on and oil changes. Im on my 3rd set now. I also had to have the speedometer rebuilt.

The front pads still had 25% and the rear about 40%. I went ahead and changed them just because. The shocks still work great, no bounce.

Great truck and its everything i need in a daily driver, i wouldn't trade it for a new one. But id drive a new one over it. lol
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My 99 Z71 has 236k on the original motor/tranny and runs like a top

Daily driven, and as you can tell by my signature I like to have fun in it once and a while
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+1 on GM trucks...my 2006 Express 2500 has 92k on it and not a single problem except normal maintenance. My wifes 2005 Equinox at about the same mileage had a list of things go wrong as long as my arm, including a blown head gasket. Both were bought new and treated well.
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