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Old 02-18-2009, 09:58 PM   #21
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holy mother of jesus on a pogo stick, I am going to do my BEST not to start a WAR after the above comment...too powerfull..are you serious? All Im going to say is do your research..I dont even want to get into 45 acp ballistics etc...do your research...and for the love of God , dont get a 38 for your particular purpose..Im about to self combust here.
Couldnt have said it better myself. Guess I'll leave my 10mm out of it too.Click the image to open in full size.
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I agree, as most people will that a .45 is a good round for self defense with a good hollowpoint.

It's a heavy slow bullet with good "knock down" power.
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45 caliber is too powerful for home defense... You shoot the intruder then your neighbor across the street too... Tone it down a bit and get hollow point bullets...

This is what I have for home protection.. 38 snub S&W loaded with hollow points... Very reliable, won't jamb and will stop a brother dead in his tracks.. Accurate and easy to manage in short range situations too..
You are definitely not speaking from experience are you.
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I had a 10mm Colt Delta Elite, and in the 50+ handguns I've owned at one time or another, that had to be my favorite. The original 10mm loads were awesome, now most companies load them to barely above .40 S&W levels.
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I had a 10mm Colt Delta Elite, and in the 50+ handguns I've owned at one time or another, that had to be my favorite. The original 10mm loads were awesome, now most companies load them to barely above .40 S&W levels.
Doubletap and Buffalo Bore, plus a few others, are still making some pretty high performance 10mm loads.

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The 180gr Gold Dot, looks nice.
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since you guys are talking about heavy rounds now. check this out....


http://www.guncrafterindustries.com/..._50gi_m2.shtml
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Everyone is entitled to there own opinions... Hollow tips loaded in a 45. caliber gun would work too don't get me wrong... No hollow tips you bullet is traveling a long way....

I kinda like the idea of a sawed off shotgun for home protection... Gotta consider you just woke up out of a dead sleep and it's dark... The robber is inside your home, I think the shot gun would be the most effecient and effective... Just don't take out the wife or kids...
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I have a Kimber .45 and two Glock .40 handguns. I prefer the G27 for concealed carry and the G23 for home defense. The Kimber is too bulky, and has jammed a couple times at the firing range. I consider it a work of art that shoots bullets, but would put my life on the Glock instead.
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I have a POS Norinco 1911 that I had a friend do some custom hammer and trigger work on. The damn gun fires like a Kimber now, and for half the price. I carry it all the time and really don't care what it looks like so long as she does the job.
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I have a S&W 1911 .40, it's a good gun nearly dead accurate, easy to carry, comfortable in my hand, and easy to disassemble for cleaning. I have had an issue with reliability though, the second to last round stove pipes about 40% of the time. I'm not sure if it's one the springs, but i need to get that issue resolved.
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I have a POS Norinco 1911 that I had a friend do some custom hammer and trigger work on. The damn gun fires like a Kimber now, and for half the price. I carry it all the time and really don't care what it looks like so long as she does the job.
POS? When it comes to guns -- made in China isn't a stigma. I have some Norinco in my private collection and they are pretty much on bar if not better than the Euro and Russian copies.
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here is my self defense it's not the best in the world or the most powerfull out there but i like it for several reasons. the main reason being in-home safety with the external safety not just a trigger safety.


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To the OP, if you are not dead set on getting a 1911, I myself would recommend a Springfield XD. It is very comfortable in the hand, has more safeties than a Glock, and are very well priced with good accuracy and ammo capacity.
It's not quite the best for concealed carry considering the square shape of it, but it is a damn reliable handgun. I have one myself in .45 ACP and have Federal Hydrashock 230 grain JHP's for home defense.
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Thanks for all the advice guys. I may lean toward a Glock then or one of the other mentioned brands that are known for reliability. I have some more shopping to do. I think I was infatuated with the appearance, fit, and finish of the Kimber models.
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the main reason being in-home safety with the external safety not just a trigger safety.
just curious, but how is that safe? sounds like another thing to forget to unclick stumbling around in the dark which could result in getting your *** lit up by someone else.

if i had a weapon inside, it would be ready to roll to the fullest.

and if i had kids, i'd have it where they couldnt get to it. or teach them gun safety.
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Thanks for all the advice guys. I may lean toward a Glock then or one of the other mentioned brands that are known for reliability. I have some more shopping to do. I think I was infatuated with the appearance, fit, and finish of the Kimber models.
right on man, im a die hard 1911 fan, but there is NOTHING wrong with a glock in terms of fit/finish/and definitely reliability.

one thing to check out though on the glock, which you might want to go to an indoor range with a rental selection to try a few out, is the grip angle, sights, and safety/trigger mechanism.
i didnt mind all, but the grip angle is weird. you get used to shooting alot of different guns and then swing up a glock and now your pointing at the ceiling.
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Springfield Armory makes some great 1911's, go check them out. I've got a Mil-Spec that is customized and has seen over 17,000 factory rounds through it, and it still runs like a champ.
Ya they make some great guns. Im going to start shopping for an XD .45ACP first week of next month.
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just curious, but how is that safe? sounds like another thing to forget to unclick stumbling around in the dark which could result in getting your *** lit up by someone else.

if i had a weapon inside, it would be ready to roll to the fullest.

and if i had kids, i'd have it where they couldnt get to it. or teach them gun safety.
it's one thing to do the gun is loaded, click the safety off and pull the trigger pretty sure most people could figure that out. i dont have kids but i like the fact that when im out shooting at the range or at a buddies house that i can put the safety on.
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Thanks for all the advice guys. I may lean toward a Glock then or one of the other mentioned brands that are known for reliability. I have some more shopping to do. I think I was infatuated with the appearance, fit, and finish of the Kimber models.
that's why you get a 1911 for your second pistol

I went glock right off the bat for down right reliability and then I went for the sex appeal of a 1911
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