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Old 11-29-2015, 10:03 AM
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Default Heel-toe. New pedals or just more practice? (F-body)

I'm not a road racer or autocrosser, but I figure this is the best section to ask. I rev match while downshifting not only to save synchronizer wear, but also because it's extremely fun and rewarding. Only problem is I can't use the brake and gas at the same time. I've tried heel toe a couple times and found it so difficult that I stopped trying. My question is, do you heel-toers driving an F-body use aftermarket pedals to help out, or did you just practice a lot? (I drive an 02 Camaro)
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Once my build is complete I'll let you know. It's not the same car, but I can do it decently in my 5th gen with the stock pedals.

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Use the right side of your foot, not your heel. There isn't enough room to swing your foot around like in some cars.

A wider gas pedal can help - it brings it closer to the brake pedal.
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I brake with my heel and hit the gas with my toes. Stock pedals, works well for me. Took some getting used to.
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Two different schools of thought here:

1. Buy the pedals, it helps with spacing and makes it easier.
2. Practice more until you get good and the improved pedal spacing isn't a necessity.

Developing the skill is absolutely important and you can't buy the skill -- there's no substitute for practice. All that being said, my opinion is that I can have the best of both worlds by buying the pedals AND getting in a ton of seat/practice time.

I don't have the pedals right now and have had a few slips when trying to practice "heel/toe" and it isn't fun. I think getting the spacing right is cheap insurance and I'd rather fix the mechanical/spacing challenge first.
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What pedals do you recommend? SRP? They used to be a sponsor here.
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I have made a pedal extender- the gas pedal is wider to the right. Easy mod with some alum or steel. You still have to practice and use the side of your foot.
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Never tried to heal toe in a Camaro but it seems to be fine in all the other cars I have had. Use your toes on the brake and heel for gas. Just have to get used to twisting your foot sideways. Pedal extenders to help but not always necessary.
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I'm sure there are others out there, however I'm only familiar with the SRP line of pedals. They offer a number of different finish options and look to be a quality part.

If you're mechanically inclined, it probably wouldn't be too difficult to make an extension to bring the gas pedal closer to the brake pedal. Unfortunately, I'm not very creative and lack the tools for these tasks, so I'll eventually buy a set from SRP.
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I use the side-by-side technique like this:



This feels awkward to me, but I know it's pretty common.



I have a C5 Corvette and installed the wider Elite Engineering Gas Pedal to close up the distance between the pedals. I have the middle one which is much wider than the cheap, stock pedal.



There are lots of reasonably-priced aftermarket kits for f-bodies.



Or you can fab up something.

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I heel toe a little different than most. I put my heel on the brake and use my toes on the gas pedal. It feels more natural like that to me and also more secure on the brakes.
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JCSperson - Your pictures reminded me of something no one has said yet. The right pair of shoes makes a huge difference. Don't go try heel-toeing with boots on, it just wont work. An actual pair of driving shoes helps out big time. I would say that the shoes help out more then the pedals.
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I just got a pair of super light/thin Mizuno running shoes that feel like a pair of socks. I'm interested to see if they work as stand-in driving shoes



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