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Old Jan 1, 2007 | 03:56 PM
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what results did you guys get and how much is it for just head porting
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Old Jan 1, 2007 | 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by RaM AiR 97
what results did you guys get and how much is it for just head porting
on here and camaroz28.com
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Old Jan 1, 2007 | 04:09 PM
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i have le2 heads on my car with the stock cam.i shouda have gone ahead and put the cam in the car while i was there.u want really see a result's of any horsepower increase if u run with the stock cam.he already knows what get's power with his heads.i think he has a cheap set u can buy for 750 but u can get the head cam package for 1200 .
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Old Jan 1, 2007 | 05:33 PM
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The #'s are always good, they will make good power
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Old Jan 1, 2007 | 07:13 PM
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My results are in sig. Lloyd is a pleasure to do business with.

eportworks.com
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Old Jan 1, 2007 | 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by kngkahious
i have le2 heads on my car with the stock cam.i shouda have gone ahead and put the cam in the car while i was there.u want really see a result's of any horsepower increase if u run with the stock cam.he already knows what get's power with his heads.i think he has a cheap set u can buy for 750 but u can get the head cam package for 1200 .

Do you have any dyno numbers or track times?
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Old Jan 2, 2007 | 03:04 PM
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Porting prices are:
LE2: 1400
LE3: 1700

Keep in mind that is fully assembled, i know lloyd does port only work quite a bit cheaper, but you would have to call him or email him.


I have LE ported trickflows and a pretty large bauer cam (from lloyd) on a 383. His work is good, and the numbers he has on his page http://www.eportworks.com are pretty accurate. My dad put my setup on a dyno the other day for some tuning, and it broke 450rwhp SAE after some adjustments, if i can get him to scan the dyno sheet i will post it. I am in iraq right now so it makes things kinda difficult
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Old Jul 20, 2007 | 10:38 PM
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This is kind of old, and I know most are kind of secretive about the LE stuff, but I have to ask anyway. Care to divulge some details on that setup? Intake runner volume/flow numbers? Cam specs? Compression? 450+ rwhp is the benchmark I've set for my 383 build. I guess I'll send a PM too...

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Porting prices are:
LE2: 1400
LE3: 1700

Keep in mind that is fully assembled, i know lloyd does port only work quite a bit cheaper, but you would have to call him or email him.


I have LE ported trickflows and a pretty large bauer cam (from lloyd) on a 383. His work is good, and the numbers he has on his page http://www.eportworks.com are pretty accurate. My dad put my setup on a dyno the other day for some tuning, and it broke 450rwhp SAE after some adjustments, if i can get him to scan the dyno sheet i will post it. I am in iraq right now so it makes things kinda difficult
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Old Jul 21, 2007 | 04:22 AM
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yeah, i would like to know as well, sounds interesting.
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Old Jul 21, 2007 | 07:50 AM
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this is one of le's and brets setups

flow .272/.192 @ .550 lift,they feature 2.00/1.55 manley valves, Comp Cams springs, titanium ret, 10 deg locks,Comp Cams Hi Tech rokers on Comp Cams 7/16 studs,3/8 Comp Cams push rods, Buaer Racing Engines custom grind solid roller cam with 248/.260 dur @ .05 lift .619/.629 lift on a 111LSA(this is ground for N2O), Comp Cam lifters.
here is another cam
Cam Specs.
.562/.562 - 1.6 RR
268/268 Duration with a 108 lobe separation
Degree on Cam: Vave open BTDC 12deg. - ABDC 48deg. Valve Close Intake side
Valve open BBDC 48deg. - ATDC 12deg. Valve closed exhaust
Degreed at the crank.

make sure you go do a search, a few people have having issues with LE's heads. maybe those guys will step in and tell you what issues they are having.
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Old Jul 21, 2007 | 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by jasonisdn
this is one of le's and brets setups

flow .272/.192 @ .550 lift,they feature 2.00/1.55 manley valves, Comp Cams springs, titanium ret, 10 deg locks,Comp Cams Hi Tech rokers on Comp Cams 7/16 studs,3/8 Comp Cams push rods, Buaer Racing Engines custom grind solid roller cam with 248/.260 dur @ .05 lift .619/.629 lift on a 111LSA(this is ground for N2O), Comp Cam lifters.
here is another cam
Cam Specs.
.562/.562 - 1.6 RR
268/268 Duration with a 108 lobe separation
Degree on Cam: Vave open BTDC 12deg. - ABDC 48deg. Valve Close Intake side
Valve open BBDC 48deg. - ATDC 12deg. Valve closed exhaust
Degreed at the crank.

make sure you go do a search, a few people have having issues with LE's heads. maybe those guys will step in and tell you what issues they are having.
nothing you said is true,so keep you're fingers off the key board...

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Old Jul 21, 2007 | 11:17 AM
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oh really ? then do a search those are specs posted by LE customers. then go read this thread https://ls1tech.com/forums/showthrea...=745394&page=3

any other questions there genius? now go try and prove me wrong . everything i typed is 100% truth.
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Old Jul 21, 2007 | 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by jasonisdn
this is one of le's and brets setups

flow .272/.192 @ .550 lift,they feature 2.00/1.55 manley valves, Comp Cams springs, titanium ret, 10 deg locks,Comp Cams Hi Tech rokers on Comp Cams 7/16 studs,3/8 Comp Cams push rods, Buaer Racing Engines custom grind solid roller cam with 248/.260 dur @ .05 lift .619/.629 lift on a 111LSA(this is ground for N2O), Comp Cam lifters.
here is another cam
Cam Specs.
.562/.562 - 1.6 RR
268/268 Duration with a 108 lobe separation
Degree on Cam: Vave open BTDC 12deg. - ABDC 48deg. Valve Close Intake side
Valve open BBDC 48deg. - ATDC 12deg. Valve closed exhaust
Degreed at the crank.

make sure you go do a search, a few people have having issues with LE's heads. maybe those guys will step in and tell you what issues they are having.
562/.562 is really on 1.5RR The lift on 1.6's well you do the math and it's a really big difference.
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Old Jul 21, 2007 | 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by ZEX-Z
562/.562 is really on 1.5RR The lift on 1.6's well you do the math and it's a really big difference.
yeah i remember , i just used the exact wording. so i saw your update pics, you almost done? i gotta finish mine this coming 2 week time frame and have it on the dyno by the 4th. then 500 mile tranny break in.
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Old Jul 22, 2007 | 12:06 PM
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If what you said was true then you would know that Lloyd and Bret don't work together,Bret just designed the cam's for Lloyd.Bret lives in NY and Lloyd lives in TX.Second Lloyd doesent use MANLEY Valves and comp springs so.Also those cam specs are way off.I live 4 houses down from Lloyd and i see everything that leves the shop and i know all the cam spec's for the LE cams

If there ever is a problem with Lloyd's heads he takes care of it.FREE of charge.You can't "idiot proof" everything,it's not Lloyds falt if someone puts the wrong guidplates on and trash there guides in 3000 miles.
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Old Jul 22, 2007 | 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by speed_demon24
It's kind of hard to blame the gudieplates when the guides are CRACKED. And the valve float from improper spring assembly height took out a couple lifters, but hopefully the cam is ok.
When you bore the guide to put in the liner sometimes the guide cracks,but if you had the wright pushrods and guideplates this wouldn't have been an issue since Lloyd installs liners in alot of his heads and you are the only one one with a problem.

You shouldn't send used springs to get installed on new heads.The springs were alredy hammered when you sent them to Lloyd because you didn't install them wright the first time
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Old Jul 22, 2007 | 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by vanilla89
If what you said was true then you would know that Lloyd and Bret don't work together,Bret just designed the cam's for Lloyd.Bret lives in NY and Lloyd lives in TX.Second Lloyd doesent use MANLEY Valves and comp springs so.Also those cam specs are way off.I live 4 houses down from Lloyd and i see everything that leves the shop and i know all the cam spec's for the LE cams

If there ever is a problem with Lloyd's heads he takes care of it.FREE of charge.You can't "idiot proof" everything,it's not Lloyds falt if someone puts the wrong guidplates on and trash there guides in 3000 miles.
if Lloyd and bret don't work together then how does bret design his cams? location doesn't matter in this age and time, when we have email and phone to contact each other within seconds. what i posted are the statements from Lloyds customers with LE cams, hench if bret designed them why are they not bret cams? funny isn't it. ithink Lloyd would fix any issues, if proven to be his fault. if not he would lose a ton of internet business. i also have seen that Lloyd DID use comp cam springs, untill the issues with quality was discovered when they changed suppliers. now i think i remember seeing he is using PAC's, comps original supplier. I also noticed in a few setups i have seen most customers say Lloyd uses ferrea valves. last but not least i wouldn't say idiot proof in the cases where there are a few issues. i would say sometimes people just mess up with assembly, Lloyd subs out his porting right? if so you never know how responsible those employees are. if not and its proven that the springs were not instaleld at the correct or stated height and the other issues fall back on Lloyd , who screwed up? there is not a single person that is perfect 100% of the time. if there are only a few people that have issues out of the amount of LT1 heads he does. then, to me , that is a good percentage on his behalf. speed i know we haven;t gotten along much but i hope they reslove your issues without costing you a cent, good luck
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Old Jul 22, 2007 | 01:23 PM
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Bret designd a line of cam's for Lloyd.You can call bret and pay him to design you a line off cam's and call them ''*** HOLE cam's'' then you and bret can work together.

Lloyd DOES NOT sub out his porting.He is probley in the shop right now grinding on someone heads.

Lloyd is one of a few people that is hear to help the LT1 comunity,it's just to bad that there are people like you that are so eager to bash him.
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Old Jul 22, 2007 | 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by vanilla89

Lloyd DOES NOT sub out his porting.He is probley in the shop right now grinding on someone heads.
mine. hopefully at least

and speed_deamon you seem to be the only person with a problem, i know valvetrain geometry can cause all kinds of problems, are u sure that this is no the case here
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Old Jul 22, 2007 | 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by speed_demon24
since when are the gm gudeplates the wronge guideplates?
not that there wrong there just not all hardened, many people are having that problem, thats why if you would have asked lloyd he would have told you to get the trick flow ones, and when your guideplates wear it screws up your geometry

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