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Old 11-17-2008, 05:35 PM
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Question 357 SBC w/ Vortec heads

Hey I have a 350 SBC bored over .040 with vortec heads I forget what castings #s it came off of a 96 tahoe so w/e was on there... but i have the zz3/zz4 cam (112 Lobe sep, 109 IC/115 EC, 208/221 @ .050, .474/.510 with a 1.5 rocker) and edelbrock eps aluminum intake and hooker comp headers, and a carter 600cfm carb, and a stock 200-4r with 10 bolt and 3:73 gears in a 86 Monte Carlo SS that ran 8.71 with sloppy shifts because it was sliding thru gears... i dnt think that is that bad for the setup. what do you guys think?
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What was your MPH?
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i'ld guess 75-80.
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good guess lol it was 78... i was running some pretty tall slicks well 2 inches talller than my street tires so that killed some gear... i had a 1.87 60' for my best and with a stout-er tranny and shorter drag radials that i jst bought im lookin for low 1.8s
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Its got alot more in it with some better shifts from the tranny and a stall. I ran 12.8@111 with a stock zz4 in my 3rd gen, whats your race weight?
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im hopin for 2 more tenths my weight is 3675 and i am getting a better converter than stock and my tranny will have shift kit... what do u think ill pick up?
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get about a 3000 stall if you drive on the street, if not go closer to 4000 and drop a but load off your times, prolly close to .5 just with a stall much less the better pulling and shifting tranny.
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So you think I could run 8.0s with we will say about 360-370 hp at the crank in a 3,675 lbs car?
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Hard to say, if you have any extra weight in the vehicle that is un needed, lose it also.If that is your MPH, the time is not bad, but there are a couple of tenths to be had, as you said, if the slicks are 28 inches tall, use a 26 tall slick.
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yeah i am gonna buy some drag radials that are 26 in and i wish i could take weight out but im not going to gut my interior cuz it looks brand new so idk where i could loose weight at... but my shifts will be crisper with a refreshened tranny and a shift kit.... one more question.. should i go with 3:73s or 4:10s
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3.73 is the best gear ever in my opinion. But if it would be a dedicated track car that is another story.
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My car was 3200lbs so its a lil different but 8.0s could be done with a good 60' and a proper tranny. BTW, what was your 60'?
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My best 60' was a 1.87 and that was with slicks that are 2 inches taller than the drag radials i have now so im sure they will improve a couple hundreths....
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i would also like to mph more in this car because if you drag race you know mph is everything the more the better but my 60's make up for a lot of that but i do have another car so it would pretty much be dedicated to the track only and cruzin friday nights n stuff
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Toy might pick up a MPH or two with 26 inch tall tires.
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i sure hope so my friend has an ls1 bird with some bolt ons and is doin 87 in the eighth to my 78 he runs bout a half second better but i would jst like to mph more than what i do...
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get a 4000stall and an xe282hr its 230/236 .510/.520. then you will be right there with ur buddy's Bird.
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i better be runnin better than it if i spend a lot of money lol i plan on goin 383 maybe next year but then im done playin with the little stuff and im goin with 454!!!
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a lot a money...for a cam swap, and a stall?????...Yeah right...
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Originally Posted by moge11
a lot a money...for a cam swap, and a stall?????...Yeah right...
ok lets see... at least 500 for a stall and then about 200-300 for a cam... ya over 700 dollars is pretty cheap???? I built this engine for less than 2 grand and i am gonna be puttin a 12 bolt in it for a bout a grand and rebuilding my 200-4r yeah idk about you but umm im not loaded with money yea....


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