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Old 12-02-2009, 07:28 PM
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Im buying a 454 with 13:1 compression, and was wondering If could drive it on 93?? Its going in my weekend warrior, anyways the only reason I asked is because my buddy's 383 has 12:1 and runs 93 with NO PROBLEMS.
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Wel, if it has aluminum heads and you run the timing WAY back, yep.
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I wouldn't say no problems, but as mentioned.
If you choke it way down and don't hammer it, who knows??


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I had a Pontiac that I tried to do that with. it got to where I could change the head gaskets in any parking lot in less than a hour.
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There is a good real lead fuel additive out there called Kemco. I plan on using it in my 489 with 12:1 compression and iron heads. The guys over on Chevelles.net rave about the stuff. I haven't checked into the price yet...
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If you have a real fuel system on there, it might be cheaper to just use E-85 if available.

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it would depend on cylinder pressures, but those are variable and dependent on other variables.
you can use the dynamic compression ratio, which depends on camshaft profile, to get a better feel but it won't guarantee that a certain octane fuel would not detonate under various conditions.

http://www.kennedysdynotune.com/Dyna...ion%20Tech.htm
http://www.empirenet.com/pkelley2/DynamicCR.html
http://www.hotrod.com/pitstop/hrdp_0...ion/index.html

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Originally Posted by cambirdracing
I had a Pontiac that I tried to do that with. it got to where I could change the head gaskets in any parking lot in less than a hour.


Ouch.

Definitely check out what the dynamic CR is as linked above. Pat Kelley is a great resource with some good free tools. I have run slightly higher DCRs than his recommended numbers with a aluminum heads without problems, but YMMV.
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Its all in the DCR. If the valves stay open longer the mechanical compression ratio means nothing. Check the DCR and that will tell the story. I run 12.5 -1 with no problem in my Chivelle. Big block



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