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Old 04-15-2008, 05:16 PM
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who makes a decent cam and chip package for a TPI engine?
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We need more specs on the engine. 305, 350? What other mods? A cam swap is not recommended as the first mod for a stock engine. You'll want to upgrade the rest of the exhaust, and the heads, and the intake manifold first or at the same time.

Also, the off-the-shelf chips like H******** or J** suck for thirdgens. They only add a few more degrees of timing and turn the fans on sooner. Your best bet is to find someone who can do custom chip tuning on the car, not over the internet.
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PCMforless and TPiS do custom PROM burning. Maybe even Jeremy Formato...

Good cam is anything that can help the weak *** intake.

A single pattern cam works well. Start by looking at what Comp or Crane designed for 87+ ECM equipped 350s. Something like a Comp XE 224/224 112 would work well with the 350.
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lot of guys have decent luck with the lingenfelter cams, or the summit brand TPI cam. even a stock lt1 cam with some 1.6 rockers is miles above the stocker...also what year tpi is it?
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Every single pattern cam I have thrown into Desktop Dyno has shown a power loss. I have no good experiences with them. And a 224/224 will require a custom chip tune to get it to idle. Also, any lift over .470" will require new springs and possibly machine work if you're using the stock heads. That's why I said its pointless to put a big cam on a stock TPI engine.
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Carburator FTMFW.
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I knew a guy that had a 305 TPI 5 speed car, ported the intake and heads and threw in a LT1 hot cam (not the LT4).

It ran 13's all day long. He took me for a ride and it was a fun car!

If its a camaro though or a bird with an aftermarket hood then STEALTH RAM IS YOUR FRIEND!!!!!!!!!!!
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Yep, the stock TPI plenum does not cut the mustard.
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Originally Posted by ZONES89RS
Yep, the stock TPI plenum does not cut the mustard.
They are descent ported with ported heads but I still say Stealth Ram.
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Ported or not, i have not seen a setup like that purn more than 5000 RPM and still make power.
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LPE 219/219 560 112
Stealthram,24lb inj.,58mm,crane afpr
195cc AFRs
Hooker long tubes
Performance Resource chip
2600 stall minimum
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If money's not an issue I'd go w/ a cam from TPIS (zz9 is good) and a mini-ram manifold.
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Originally Posted by ZONES89RS
Ported or not, i have not seen a setup like that turn more than 5000 RPM and still make power.
Let me introduce you to my engine then. With siamesed SLP runners, Trick Flow heads, and Lunati 226/232 camshaft, it makes 360 RWTQ at 5000 rpms, and 355 RWHP from 5300 to 5800 rpms. I dont know why the HP stops climbing at 5300, but its table-top flat up to 5800, where it then drops off. The red line is my engine with the siamesed runners. The blue line is my engine with a SuperRam.

Miniram is way too expensive when you can get a StealthRam for half the price. They're really similar intakes. Also the ZZ9 is way too small for a Miniram, they like larger cams. Lastly, the LPE219 is 15 years old and outdated tech now. The Comp XFI268HR-113 is brand new and a much better camshaft.
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Lastly, the LPE219 is 15 years old and outdated tech now. The Comp XFI268HR-113 is brand new and a much better camshaft.[/QUOTE]

i agree with the age of the design but you have to agree it will still work nicely...
the cc306 is just as old but it still is sold and many people are still installing them and running 11s..........i used it in the early 90s in one of my many TPI cars with great success
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Originally Posted by Kevin91Z
I dont know why the HP stops climbing at 5300, but its table-top flat up to 5800, where it then drops off.
Its flat because of the TPI! with a mini ram it would peak at 5800 or higher and make 375 or so rwhp.
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Originally Posted by Kevin91Z
Let me introduce you to my engine then. With siamesed SLP runners, Trick Flow heads, and Lunati 226/232 camshaft, it makes 360 RWTQ at 5000 rpms, and 355 RWHP from 5300 to 5800 rpms. I dont know why the HP stops climbing at 5300, but its table-top flat up to 5800, where it then drops off. The red line is my engine with the siamesed runners. The blue line is my engine with a SuperRam.

Miniram is way too expensive when you can get a StealthRam for half the price. They're really similar intakes. Also the ZZ9 is way too small for a Miniram, they like larger cams. Lastly, the LPE219 is 15 years old and outdated tech now. The Comp XFI268HR-113 is brand new and a much better camshaft.
I am still refering to stock runners with ported upper and lower.
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Originally Posted by moge11
Its flat because of the TPI! with a mini ram it would peak at 5800 or higher and make 375 or so rwhp.
I'd love to try a MiniRam or StealthRam but first I dont have access to one, and second they're not street legal as they remove the EGR function. My next dyno is going to be this weekend, and I swapped back to a set of TPIS/AS&M large tube runners.

I know a guy who swapped from a SuperRam to a MiniRam, and it went from 335 RWHP and 385 RWTQ, to 335 RWHP and 350 RWTQ. He probably didnt have enough camshaft to take advantage of the MiniRam. They like larger cams and higher RPM's.



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